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Deberg_1990 09-24-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016152)
Well, look at the Top Ten or Twelve guys drafted this year. No one is impressing.

Mingo and Jordan have like 4 tackles and one sack each. The tackles are struggling. Tavon Austin is struggling. Cooper is out for the year. DJ Haden is crap.

The only guys, IMO, out of the top 15 or so guys that I would swap for Fisher, at this point, are Sheldon Richardson, Lotuleili and possibly Vacarro.

This might turn out to be the worst draft, at least the first round in a looooong time. Heh, Chiefs luck.

RealSNR 09-24-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016205)
Lotuleili is playing well, as is Vacarro.

Vacarro and Berry would have been sick.

And Poe-Richardson and/or Poe-Lotuleili wouldn't be too far behind.

Lol. With that hypothetical secondary, I don't fear the Broncos one bit. Cover 3 the shit out of Peyton and let our LBs do the rest of the work. That would be so sexy.

ChiefGator 09-24-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10016110)
new coaching
new system
new group of Oline
young Oline
inexperience Oline

:shrug:

Oh sure, make excuses for them. They have had like 150 snaps together.. enough to be old pros.

notorious 09-24-2013 05:30 PM

He better turn into an All-Pro.

Eleazar 09-24-2013 05:30 PM

I liked what someone posted in another thread:

Re: Fisher - "NO MORE EXCUSES!"
Re: Geno Smith - "He's just a rookie!"

Pablo 09-24-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10016233)
I liked what someone posted in another thread:

Re: Fisher - "NO MORE EXCUSES!"
Re: Geno Smith - "He's just a rookie!"

Yeah, that argument never gets flipped around.

LMAO

Welcome to CP.

lcarus 09-24-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10016211)
This might turn out to be the worst draft, at least the first round in a looooong time. Heh, Chiefs luck.

Yeah, this. Just a shitty draft. Of course there will be guys that emerge as star players who came from this draft, but overall it was just the worst year to have the #1 pick. Possibly in my lifetime. At least that I can remember.

Ace Gunner 09-24-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10015751)
don't care, they drafted him to play RT...that's his job, and they chose him to do it...with the #1 pick in the draft


Albert moved from guard to tackle played brilliantly as a rookie on a much shittier team...

fisher is the worst RT in the league, it's ok for people to expect better...no excuses are required

Albert had Brian Waters on one side and TE Brad Cottam on the outside helping him almost every ****ing snap of his rookie season with the Chiefs.

why do folks keep forgetting this.

Also, it's a changed league now, where the RT is seeing players that are pretty fast and beastly -- like, say, Justin ****ing Houston & JJ Watt.

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10016222)
Lol. With that hypothetical secondary, I don't fear the Broncos one bit. Cover 3 the shit out of Peyton and let our LBs do the rest of the work. That would be so sexy.

We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.

lcarus 09-24-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016249)
We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.

So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

Chiefs Pantalones 09-24-2013 05:36 PM

The same people that are saying Fisher is a bust are the same that were anointing RG3 and Kap great QBs after a year. Patience, brethren. :)

O.city 09-24-2013 05:37 PM

His only pick to play much this year so far is fisher. Dunno if that's good or bad.

jd1020 09-24-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10016259)
So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

Will it matter if he does? Nope.

Terrible position to pick to improve your team, especially at #1. Look for someone who can block in the middle rounds.

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10016259)
So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

Hope? Sure.

But the #1 overall guy should be in beast mode from Day One, not need a year in the weight room, learning technique, etc.

Pablo 09-24-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10016259)
So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

There's been absolutely nothing so far to show that he has that sort of potential. Not even really any dominating flashes so far.

Just a bunch of 'meh' mixed in with a healthy does of 'WTF' and 'shit'.

The book isn't written by any means; but there is no data to show that sort of optimism at this point.


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