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htismaqe 12-09-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10262861)
Attractive women and food.

Everything golf is not...

There's like 15 minutes of attractive women for every 24 hours of programming.

EEEWWWWWW.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-09-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262847)
Yeah, it was rigged that a shitty team would win just because it's team name is Patriots.

Never mind that the team was great and basically dominated the next decade, or that having a New York team win would have been the more obvious storyline.

Dude, They were going to be put on a pedestal as long as Bin Laden was alive. Now they claim he was buried at sea so no one really knows for sure. Which translates to keeping the Patriots on the top until we're done in Afghanistan.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262858)
And so those things make it less likely to win the Super Bowl? How?

I'm just going to assume you're being obtuse.

ILChief 12-09-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262846)
The general attitude of the fans, aka what they are usually satisfied with vs what they are not.

The size of the market they're in.

The location of the market they're in.

Off the top of my head.

Green Bay, pittsburgh, and Indianapolis are similar size and in the middle of the country. Our fan base is fine. Save our chiefs proved we won't stand for a consistently crappy product. We are probably closer to a Super Bowl now than in a long time. Our core is fairly young, built through the draft and we aren't completely one sided like in the past

MahiMike 12-09-2013 08:51 AM

You should send this in as your essay.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10262869)
Green Bay, pittsburgh, and Indianapolis are similar size and in the middle of the country. Our fan base is fine. Save our chiefs proved we won't stand for a consistently crappy product. We are probably closer to a Super Bowl now than in a long time. Our core is fairly young, built through the draft and we aren't completely one sided like in the past

Green Bay is THE original NFL franchise. Pittsburgh and Indy also have history on their side. None of the 3 are original AFL teams, FWIW.

MahiMike 12-09-2013 08:52 AM

I hope this means you still believe in Storage Wars and Duck Dynasty. Those shows aren't fabricated at all!

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 08:54 AM

For anyone who thinks the games are rigged or at least intentionally "biased," you're really talking about the game officials literally taking direct orders from the NFL to make calls against one team and go easy on the other. And not once has an official ever come forward to say this was happening? Is the entire game crew in on it, or does the NFL just plant 1 guy per crew to slip in a few holding or PI calls?

Rausch 12-09-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262874)
Green Bay is THE original NFL franchise. Pittsburgh and Indy also have history on their side. None of the 3 are original AFL teams, FWIW.

Every now and again there's a team that fights the odds.

Tampa, Baltimore (1st SB win,) Cardinals (literal red-headed stepchildren,) Rams, etc...

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10262865)
Dude, They were going to be put on a pedestal as long as Bin Laden was alive. Now they claim he was buried at sea so no one really knows for sure. Which translates to keeping the Patriots on the top until we're done in Afghanistan.

Ok, I'm going to assume you're kidding.

Ace Gunner 12-09-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10262817)
Or the year that 911 occurred and the PATRIOTS won

even my wife said that game was rigged early on.


oh, and Marshall Faulk;

"I understand Bill [Belichick] is a great coach," Faulk told Curran. "But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you ... Mike Martz will tell you ... We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. I think we got to fourth down -- we ran three plays that we hadn't ran, that Mike drew up for that game. Bill's a helluva coach … we hadn't ran them the whole year [and the Patriots were ready for them]." And the only time that Rams practiced those plays? At the walkthrough.


nice lil article/video link here;

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ss-to-patriots

htismaqe 12-09-2013 08:57 AM

FWIW, I'm not suggesting that the NFL is rigged or blatantly biased (I do think it's inherently biased in some cases).

I think the combination of city, fans, ownership, NFL structure, and several other factors are going to make it nearly impossible for the Chiefs to win a Super Bowl.

Rausch 12-09-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262879)
For anyone who thinks the games are rigged or at least intentionally "biased," you're really talking about the game officials literally taking direct orders from the NFL to make calls against one team and go easy on the other. And not once has an official ever come forward to say this was happening? Is the entire game crew in on it, or does the NFL just plant 1 guy per crew to slip in a few holding or PI calls?

I don't think he takes orders from the NFL but that roided out freak Ed Hochuli takes advantage of every opportunity to make game changing calls that often are impossible to defend.

There is no other ref I'd fear having more in a meaningful game...

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10262880)
Every now and again there's a team that fights the odds.

Tampa, Baltimore (1st SB win,) Cardinals (literal red-headed stepchildren,) Rams, etc...

So basically, it's down to "we need a miracle".

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262866)
I'm just going to assume you're being obtuse.

I'm going to assume you're avoiding answering the question. How does playing in the Midwest in a smaller market make it less likely for the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl? If this was baseball and we were talking about the Royals, I'd agree. But football has revenue sharing and salary caps. Everyone has a chance. The teams that have a long run of success are largely the ones who drafted a great QB.


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