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ChiefRocka 12-12-2013 06:48 AM

Alex is a consistent QB in this league. He is not elite but few are. Odds of landing an elite signal caller
are very slim. Wake the **** up and accept the fact that we will start a good QB under center for the next 6 years at Arrowhead.

Would you be happy with Foles right now? Most in this thread probably wouldn't and you're dumb.

BlackHelicopters 12-12-2013 06:58 AM

No

warrior 12-12-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10270346)
If the cap increases as expected, Smith at 9-12 million/yr is cheap enough to keep elite talent on both sides of the ball around him.

That's really my point - nobody thinks Smith is an elite guy; a guy that makes all his teammates better. But I think we've established that he can win and win big with a good team. If he's making 'game manager' money, then it makes sense to keep him because we can surround him with that good team.

And for the record, but/for the fact that Peyton Manning is a !@#$ing quarterbacking robot, I would absolutely believe that this team can win a Super Bowl, or at least get to one.

So let's say we extend Smith for 4 years/$40 million - in 2 years, Manning's gone and this team has a clear path to the AFCW.

"take my chances elsewhere...."

With what? Who? You want to let the guy leave after 2014 and spin the wheel on Bray?

I think Chiefs fans suddenly got really spoiled by a competent quarterback and just assume everyone has one. Folks - 1/2 the NFL is woefully inadequate at the QB position. I have no interest in re-joining those ranks.

We can win with Smith. We don't have a clear replacement for him. Go ahead and keep looking for young ones, but if you give Smith an extension that takes him through 2016/2017, you have plenty of time to find that young one without falling back into the abyss of shit we were just in.

Agreed---- be careful what you wish for.

stonedstooge 12-12-2013 07:10 AM

I'd kind of like to see him pull a victory out for the Chiefs first before I'd give him an extension.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-12-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10270430)
Smith plays a role in how great our defense is.. Just like he did for the 49ers. No reason to let him go unless we have an elite QB to replace him with.

Great defense? :doh!:

PRIEST 12-12-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10270115)
I'll get back to you after the playoffs...




This

scho63 12-12-2013 07:35 AM

I would give him a 2 yr extension, draft another QB, and let them fight it out.

I'm happy with Alex's performance

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 12-12-2013 07:49 AM

Everybody seems to forget that Alex is Andy Reid's hand picked leader. Andy is totally in love with Alex and has been for years. After seeing the Chiefs get double digit wins the season after winning only 2 games with Alex as the man orchestrating the turnaround what do you think Andy will do about an extension. Just judging his performance on the first 13 games Alex deserves an extension and if he wins playoff games his bounty will increase. People forget real fast how lousy this team has been the last 10 years. Extending Alex will help the team move forward and keep us at the top of the league for many years to come. Have faith in our new leadership, the dark ages are over.

htismaqe 12-12-2013 07:58 AM

It really doesn't matter what we think.

He's going to get an extension and given that he's been part of an historic turnaround, it will likely be for a lot longer than anybody wants, even the people that really like him.

Silock 12-12-2013 08:05 AM

An

MahiMike 12-12-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10270061)
**** no.

**** yea!

Lzen 12-12-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10270121)
If Alex beats Indy and Denver on the road I will be all in.

I'm with you there. But what about this scenario. Alex Smith plays very well and does everything possible to help the team win (ala Charger game) and the defense doesn't play well and we lose to one of those teams. What then?

Lzen 12-12-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10270163)
Let him walk where?

He is signed for starters pay this year and next. Sorry, but I would hate to sign him this offseason to a big contract and him to get hurt next year or in the offseason.

I say let it play out and if he is playing at a high level by mid season next year, start the talks...even if it costs us a little more that way, it would be worth it in "cover our ass" bucks.

I like this scenario.

duncan_idaho 12-12-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10270565)
It really doesn't matter what we think.

He's going to get an extension and given that he's been part of an historic turnaround, it will likely be for a lot longer than anybody wants, even the people that really like him.

I think you're 100 percent right.

The Chiefs don't HAVE to extend Smith this season. They have another year of control. Get through the playoffs, see how things work out, see how the draft and FA work out.

Things I'd want to see before being OK with giving Smith an extension:

1) Chiefs need to win final 3 games of regular season.

2) Chiefs need to beat an elite team at some point this year, though they probably don't have another chance until the playoffs (Colts are not elite right now... Chargers are more of a fringe playoff team)

3) Alex Smith needs to play at an extremely high level and be a big part of the reason they win that playoff game. (I.E., Chiefs win 28-24 because the defense plays at an epic level and scores two TDs, not good enough).

Smith is a big upgrade from Matt Cassel and is at least a credible NFL starter, but he really has been a very average, middle-of-the-pack starter.

60 percent completion, 6.2 YPA (worst rate in the league for a starting QB) and a QB rating in the mid-80s is not enough to warrant an extension, bad receivers or no.

He's done nothing to disprove claims he is somewhere between the 15th and 25th best starting QB option in the league. I wouldn't be in a rush to extend him until he does.

duncan_idaho 12-12-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10270163)
Let him walk where?

He is signed for starters pay this year and next. Sorry, but I would hate to sign him this offseason to a big contract and him to get hurt next year or in the offseason.

I say let it play out and if he is playing at a high level by mid season next year, start the talks...even if it costs us a little more that way, it would be worth it in "cover our ass" bucks.

We agree on something Alex Smith-related (Even if it is for different reasons).


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