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listopencil 01-20-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10383198)
EP kicks in rugby aren't limited by a narrow set of hash marks. They can be attempted along the sideline, if that happens to be where the player scored the try.

Goodell's complaint was that EPs were too easy and "automatic". I proposed something to make them more difficult.

I would rather get rid of them.

NinerDoug 01-20-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10383101)
It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.

How will it force teams to go for two? You get seven automatically. But if you go for two and fail, you get six. Same as now, only you just don't have to kick the extra point if you are ok with 7.

greatgooglymoogly 01-20-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10383212)
I would rather get rid of them.

The kicks, or the hash marks? I agree either way.

Donger 01-20-2014 04:50 PM

How many times did teams attempt two points this year instead of the EP? What percentage?

Rausch 01-20-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383207)
I understand the dislike of Goodell, but I've thought about this idea for a long time.

There's not many other plays in sports (if any), where points are awarded in such an automatic fashion. It's a pointless play. Everyone equates a touchdown with 7 points anyway.

So move the XP to the 20.

At least then the wind and rush has a legitimate impact...

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10383215)
The kicks, or the hash marks? I agree either way.

The kicks, but I wouldn't be upset if they dropped the hashes as well.

BlackHelicopters 01-20-2014 04:58 PM

Make it a longer kick. Simple.

KChiefer 01-20-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10383190)
I realize that the league will just ignore the logic problem. That doesn't mean we shouldn't point it out.

There is no logic problem. If they do this they can remove 5-10 worthless plays per game. Heck, now when teams get inside the 2 often they'll just go for it on 4th. There were a whopping 12 19yd fgs in the entire NFL this year out of 998 total. There were 1267 xps.

KChiefer 01-20-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10383222)
So move the XP to the 20.

At least then the wind and rush has a legitimate impact...

Sweet then we can start valuing kickers more, just what everyone wants!

Prison Bitch 01-20-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10383103)
Why don't they consider moving the extra point kicks back so they are not so automatic?


I posted a thread awhile back from a Peter King I think that argued that NFL kickers have become too good.

I like it.

TEX 01-20-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383207)
I understand the dislike of Goodell, but I've thought about this idea for a long time.

There's not many other plays in sports (if any), where points are awarded in such an automatic fashion. It's a pointless play. Everyone equates a touchdown with 7 points anyway.

Except on the rare occasions when it is missed/blocked and it ads something to the game. Im in favor of keeping it as is for that reason.

kcpasco 01-20-2014 05:09 PM

And the transformation of a once great game continues. Why in the hell do they have to keep ruining this sport.

listopencil 01-20-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10383251)
And the transformation of a once great game continues. Why in the hell do they have to keep ruining this sport.

You enjoy the PAT?

KChiefer 01-20-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10383245)
Except on the rare occasions when it is missed/blocked and it ads something to the game. Im in favor of keeping it as is for that reason.

5 out of 1267 kicks. Or 5 out of 256 games. 2% of games potentially affected.

Rain Man 01-20-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10383087)
"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about. It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

Clark must be on Chiefsplanet, because I proposed this exact idea a while back.

Clark, if you're reading this, good job. Post once in a while, and be sure to vote in the sceneitall tournament. And my company does analytics if you ever want to get a competitive upper hand.


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