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The Franchise 03-12-2014 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483416)
The Chiefs are getting a lot of players back this year. Kelce and Commings will make big contributions IMO.

Fisher and Catapano were told to put on weight and get stronger this offseason. They are obviously confident in our draft picks and think they will make a difference.

Time to find out if they were right
Correction. Kelce and Commings HAVE to make big contributions. If they don't....it ends up being a double fail because not only did the draft picks suck...but they did nothing to provide insurance in case they did.

BigRock 03-12-2014 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483299)
I don't understand the logic in doing what they did last year and following it up with the exact opposite approach.
Shouldn't the approach change when the situation changes? Last year they needed a QB. They needed better players than Pioli's two win shitheap. And they had the cap room to get it done. They clearly wanted to overhaul the roster. More than half of the final 53 players were Dorsey/Reid additions.

None of that is true today. It seems logical that their approach would be different now.

RunKC 03-12-2014 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483424)
Again, this is pure hope. I can totally understand why you would feel that way, but surely you can understand why some of us don't. Right?
Dorsey sure seems to have a lot of confidence in these guys bc he's not panicking right now.

I still don't see why people are worried about the Broncos? Talib has missed 25 games in his last 3 years, Ware is worn down and it showed last year, Von and Harris were their best D players at LB and DB last year and both sustained a huge injury.

It seems like Denver is hoping for a lot on their side.

The Franchise 03-12-2014 09:26 AM
I really hate this argument of "we're building for the future because Denver has Peyton Manning". There are ALWAYS going to be strong teams every year. Holding off and waiting until next season because Manning is there, should get you fired.

RunKC 03-12-2014 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10483437)
Correction. Kelce and Commings HAVE to make big contributions. If they don't....it ends up being a double fail because not only did the draft picks suck...but they did nothing to provide insurance in case they did.
Again, it seems like our brass feel like they will make a difference

Micjones 03-12-2014 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483456)
Dorsey sure seems to have a lot of confidence in these guys bc he's not panicking right now.

I still don't see why people are worried about the Broncos? Talib has missed 25 games in his last 3 years, Ware is worn down and it showed last year, Von and Harris were their best D players at LB and DB last year and both sustained a huge injury.

It seems like Denver is hoping for a lot on their side.
I don't get the panic behind what Denver's done at all.
How often does a "dream team" win a championship in any pro sport?

The only thing that bugged me about what they did yesterday was getting Ward for $5.5m.
THAT stung.

RunKC 03-12-2014 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10483458)
I really hate this argument of "we're building for the future because Denver has Peyton Manning". There are ALWAYS going to be strong teams every year. Holding off and waiting until next season because Manning is there, should get you fired.
They aren't doing this at all. They aren't scared of Manning. We lost to them them by 17 points combined in 2 games last year

htismaqe 03-12-2014 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 10483452)
Shouldn't the approach change when the situation changes?
Be adjusted? Sure. Do a complete 180? Um, that's the anthesis of a "plan".

htismaqe 03-12-2014 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483456)
Dorsey sure seems to have a lot of confidence in these guys bc he's not panicking right now.

I still don't see why people are worried about the Broncos? Talib has missed 25 games in his last 3 years, Ware is worn down and it showed last year, Von and Harris were their best D players at LB and DB last year and both sustained a huge injury.

It seems like Denver is hoping for a lot on their side.
Who is worried about the Broncos?

They were already better than us, and they just got better.

I'm not "scared" of anything.

The Franchise 03-12-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483476)
They aren't doing this at all. They aren't scared of Manning. We lost to them them by 17 points combined in 2 games last year
A loss is a loss.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483476)
They aren't doing this at all. They aren't scared of Manning. We lost to them them by 17 points combined in 2 games last year
Those games weren't ever really in question. The final scores weren't indicative of how the games actually played out.

RunKC 03-12-2014 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483487)
Who is worried about the Broncos?

They were already better than us, and they just got better.

I'm not "scared" of anything.
I actually think we match up better with their offense now. Moreno killed us all the time and he's gone. Decker was the one constantly gave us fits last year and he's gone.

And they STILL can't stop the run.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483498)
I actually think we match up better with their offense now. Moreno killed us all the time and he's gone. Decker was the one constantly gave us fits last year and he's gone.

And they STILL can't stop the run.
Sorry, but until the Chiefs actually show they can hang with the Broncos, I'm not gonna believe it.

They're gonna have to play some games before I even begin to think about it.

The Franchise 03-12-2014 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483498)
I actually think we match up better with their offense now. Moreno killed us all the time and he's gone. Decker was the one constantly gave us fits last year and he's gone.

And they STILL can't stop the run.
And you know this....how?

KC native 03-12-2014 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483151)
It just seems like so far that's where this offseason is heading.

We have a good year and then in the offseason we spin our wheels/take steps back...while other teams in division are clearly bolstering their lineups.

I just feel like this is the offseason we need to make a push to put the pieces in place to win some playoff games and unless we add some serious pieces, we have a better chance at missing the playoffs all together.

This doesn't have much to do with day 1 free agency as it does the fact there has been no movement to try and create cap space by restructuring deals, no interest in the affordable signings and we let 3 quality OL walk in a year a division for is bolstering their pass rush and coverage units.

Just feels just like 2004, so far anyway.

Anyone else feel this way?
Damn it, I've been feeling the same way. Hearing someone else state it just solidifies it.

We over-achieved with a weak schedule last year. This year the schedule is a lot tougher and it doesn't feel like we're making any positive changes to the team and combine that with the attrition, I think we underwhelm this year.


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