We could have lined up two old women in walkers against Hilton and they would have been just as effective as the combination of Lewis and Robinson were.

I approve this message because i never have enough talent either/GuntherCunningham




If we can't make up for a weakness at a single position then we are screwed. If Lewis was such a problem then why did our coaches keep running him out there?

I can't tell you exactly what he should have done because i'm not a professional NFL coach. I can say that other teams did more with less defensive talent than we did. Our secondary looked disorganized and we allowed the same stinking plays to be successful over and over again. We allowed the same player to kill us over and over again.

tbh i've thought our secondary has looked ragged for years considering i thought our talent was decent. You love emmitt thomas but i just don't see it.

Sutton will get another couple of years but i could very easily everyone saying he doesn't have enough talent over and over again ala goonther.

Our Defense doesn't have to be the best but if it looks like a clutter**** then i'm going to hold the coaching accountable.

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First half of the season the defense was 100% healthy. They were getting pressure sending 3 or 4 rushers from nickel/sub packages and usually rushing 5 from base 3-4 alignments. This was letting our secondary play man trail with berry playing robber over the middle most of the time. Makes the QB have to make a perfect throw or risk being picked. When everyone started to drop, we had no rush whatsoever, forcing us to blitz and it was still being picked up because you have guys like Zombo who can't beat someone 1v1. Pick your poison, because your going to get lit up if you can't get to the QB. Even when Tamba & JH came back, they werent close to 100% and you could easily see that.

After watching the highlights of Calvin Pryor-I would love to have him in Red knocking the shit out the Donks running those illegal pick plays. We need some hitters back there to make the WR's pay for going over the middle on us. It was our biggest weakness last year. Sutton appeared to have no answer for it? Was that talent or playcalling? I tend to lean towards talent.

You're so dead wrong….that is not our problem. WAY more pressing needs than that. Especially now with QB situation. Already have 2 great pass rushers in Houston and Hali. As far as a pass rushing lineman we already have that too in Catapano….all they have to do is play the guy. spending your only pick in 1st 2 rounds on a pass rusher when we have so many other glaring needs makes no sense.

Kendrick Lewis was the single most glaring weakness, but not the only one.

No pass rush from the line, and an ILB that couldn't cover your useless ass, along with no depth behind Hali or Houston.

Once those 2 went down to injury, every single hole on this defense was exposed and exploited.

You don't approach the draft that way.

There are always needs that you don't anticipate at the time.

Another pass rusher, or 2, is absolutely a need.

And we already have Catapano?
What, exactly do we have there?

Do you know.
I sure as hell don't,

More than anything, I'd like to see him get better at evaluating personnel. Props to him for making a really smart move to put in Cooper and move Flowers to the Nickel.

I don't know why it took until after the Chargers "back-up game" to realize we had better depth than we thought, at least in terms of players we can rotate in to keep our starters fresh. Why did it take until the Colts game to realize Parker and Abdullah should have a place in this defense? Why did Sutton think Dunta Robinson was good enough to start against Indy? If Akeem Jordan is so limited in situations where we want our ILB to have range, why was he playing so many snaps?

I agree… from a scheme perspective, you've got lots of people learning it and limitations based on the talent. I worry about Sutton's ability to read talent, which makes me question if he's always going to get the best players on the field.

Boom!! There were lots of places to place blame but ultimately it was first year in a new system. We got lucky early with a weaker sched. Got exploited by the better offensive teams. The playoff game was about as freak accident as a game can be. Flowers injury was the straw that broke the camels back. I think we had a good shot at winning that game if he doesn't go out. I think thing will get better as we get th players needed to run Suttons defense. Gotta give it a little time!

I'm really excited to see Berry bring it this year. Of all the players adjusting to this defense, he probably had it the hardest. Most write-ups on the Ryan defense say that Strong Safeties have one of the biggest learning curves. I think his work ethic and dedication in the film room is going to make him an animal this year.

He needs to stop wearing out our ****ing D Linemen.

CJ Mosley is NOTHING like Nico Johnson. Holy shit man.

You're wasting time debating.

All discussions lead to one inevitable conclusion: CHIEFS SUCK

We don't but, again, I partially have to blame him for that. In this league, you never know who you're going to be missing week in and week out. Guys get dinged up and miss plays, others get seriously injured and miss weeks. That's one of the main reasons you have depth.

It's not like our coverage schemes are all that difficult anyway. We were running man most of the time. He either could do it or he couldn't; there isn't much of a mental aspect involved.

We know for a fact that Dunta couldn't do it so why wasn't Parker given the opportunity? Honestly, is there any possible way that he could have been worse?

You might be right although I'd say he's likely faster than Lewis because Kendrick is slow as dog shit.

They were right to bring him along slowly to begin the season, having been away from football for a while, but it's hard for me to imagine that he'd have been worse than Kendrick by about week 13 or so.

Placing him at SS and Berry at FS likely would have forced us to change up some of our looks but we so desperately needed someone capable at FS. I think the drop off from Berry to Abdullah would have been outweighed heavily by the upgrade from Lewis to Berry.

Right, which is why I like zone more when it comes to defending those especially considering they're two of our division rival's bread and butter plays. If we've got 4, 5, 6 or 7 sets of eyes in coverage all looking in front of them, we'll likely have a better chance to lay some clean licks on guys streaking across the field as well as the opportunity to put more bodies on them if they're able to make the catch.

I just got tired of seeing Peyton dump off a quick hitter to a guy on a drag route with one of our CBs 2 or 3 yards behind him in pursuit, only to allow 10 additional YAC because everyone's eyes are on their man.

I'm sure it's not so simple as saying "Let's run moe zone!" but it is something that needs to be addressed. It's not like our personnel is way off. Flowers is strong in zone while Smith isn't but Cooper is sort of a blank slate. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens after the draft..