Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 11039659)

I see where it says to stop calling him a game manager. I couldn't find the statistics to back that claim up, especially when it takes him 21 games to put up Andy Dalton numbers.

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11042940)

Doesn't matter when you win.

But to label him as anything but a game manager is inaccurate.

And the Chiefs will never win anything with him because of that.

Good day, sir.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11043097)

So ridiculous that this one missed play goes on and on. Smith didn't make many special plays that make your eyes pop open.. but he did have a near flawless game of spreading the ball around and dominating TOP. He did put together an excellent 2 minute drive.. from the 8 yard line... to win the game.

This isn't Madden.. where you (as QB) drop back and can see every perfect target route just as they come out of their break, and have the option to hit the any one of the targets with a push of a button. I can see some criticism, if AJJ was wide open or had a couple steps on the defender... he wasn't and didn't. I can see more criticism if this was a 4th down play on some final drive of the game...it wasn't.

The GREAT Phyllis Rivers.. in his own house.. had many crap throws.. some of which he got bailed out on by great receiver catches... but many off target throws.

... but no. Let's focus all attention on one play where Smith elected not to force a deep, low percentage throw on great CB coverage vs a below average WR.

... and this comes after a huge road win.. in which Smith had a higher avr. and rating.. against a division opponent on a 5 game win streak.


just wow, people... No one is anointing Smith as the "greatest evar" over this or any game... but being this petty as to grumble on and on over this one play? :facepalm:

Originally Posted by ODESSABRONC (Post 11043468)

He makes that play the Chiefs are in position to score a touchdown. Great quarterbacks play to make plays and journeyman quarterbacks do not.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11042748)

He did not have that matchup. Wilcox was wrong.

Pocket collapsed before the receiver made his break and got inside of the defender.

Originally Posted by ODESSABRONC (Post 11043468)

He makes that play the Chiefs are in position to score a touchdown.

Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11043484)

You take the higher percentage pass and have a better chance at moving the chains, eat more of the clock and keep the opposing offense off the field.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11043488)

If he was going to take the higher percentage pass, he needed to do it when the wr or TE was actually open. He waited and threw it late, making it a riskier throw as it could have been intercepted.

It's third down. Take the throw down the field. Worst case scenario it's intercepted.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11043488)

If he was going to take the higher percentage pass, he needed to do it when the wr or TE was actually open. He waited and threw it late, making it a riskier throw as it could have been intercepted.

It's third down. Take the throw down the field. Worst case scenario it's intercepted.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11043501)

Again... this is not Madden, where the QB has an advantage in seeing every route unfold at the same time.

If he fires off a quick pass underneath, people bitch that he didn't take the time to look deep downfield.

When he waits to see if a deep target gets open and misses his window underneath.. people bitch about that too.

It's a no win situation with some folks.

I'm not even saying I know with certainty when and where he went through his progressions... doesn't much matter... as it was just ONE inconsequential play. I'd understand it more if AJJ was running wild and free... but his CB was up his ass to the point that even in a still picture... can't see but one body.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11043520)

Of course he has to be wild and free for smith to throw it anyway. It's one inconsequential play that led to a punt and the opponent to tie the score.

Jesus.

The corner is right behind him sure, but it's a post. He, the wr, has all the leverage to the post and is on top of the co4ner

Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 11043581)

I'm so tired of Alex Smith and all he brings to the world.

Originally Posted by jLoy88 (Post 11043586)

You must long for the days of 2-14 again. I hate quarterbacks who win also.

Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11043563)

Guys... What are the Chiefs good at? Short to Mid range passes. What are they not good at? Deep passes. Be it because Smith is supposedly a pussy, be it because the WR's suck, be it because the oline can't pass pro long enough, be it because Smith supposedly has a noodle arm, etc etc etc. Going deep there had a low percentage of success for one or all of the reasons above - depending on your individual perspective. Smith saw the deep opportunity present itself, pulled the arm back to throw it and then the statistic of success flashed in his head and he looked for the underneath route instead to move the chains. The hesitation meant that the underneath route was no longer available. It didn't work out but it's tough to argue the logic of the decision. Again, I personally think he lets it fly there if it were 1st or 2nd down.

I would have liked to see him chuck it personally, but think I understand why he did not.