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listopencil 01-18-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279199)
Houston imploded in Kubiak's final season there and he basically had a nervous breakdown.

Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

eDave 01-18-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11279221)
Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

So, about that... Chance of recurring?

bowener 01-18-2015 10:10 PM

Houston will give up 2 firsts for Manning.

listopencil 01-18-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11279228)
So, about that... Chance of recurring?

I have no idea. If he had undiagnosed circulatory problems that led to it then I would say the chance is small because he's probably getting treatment that he wasn't getting before it happened.

Deberg_1990 01-18-2015 10:15 PM

Took him 6-7 seasons for him to make the playoffs in Houston


They almost always played down to expectations.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279199)
It is a terrible hire by Elway.

If Elway thinks he can re-create an offense to protect Manning the same way Kubiak and Shanahan created an offense to help Elway win two Super Bowls at the end of his career… he is overlooking several key differences:

1) Alex Gibbs zone blocking scheme is not in place.
2) Terrell Davis is not walking through that door.
3) Manning is far more washed up than Elway was.

Houston imploded in Kubiak's final season there and he basically had a nervous breakdown. He will be under intense pressure to deliver a Super Bowl in what will likely be Manning's final season next year… and he doesn't have a good track record of handling adversity or pressure well as a HC.

Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11279221)
Are you referring to Kubiak's mini-stroke?

Yes. His team imploded and he cracked under the pressure.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11279241)
Took him 6-7 seasons for him to make the playoffs in Houston


They almost always played down to expectations.

Rick Smith is and was an awful GM. Kubiak just finished the year in Baltimore where they had the best offense since they drafted Flacco.

Throw out that awful 2-14 season, where Schaub hit the wall and he was forced to play an undrafted free agent QB, and he looks pretty damn good.

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 10:23 PM

Kubes is eh? So effing what.

notorious 01-18-2015 10:23 PM

Denver is planning for the future with Kubiak. If Manning comes back, it will be his show for one more year, but make no mistake, after Manning is gone we will get to see the bootleg offense that fisted our defensive ends over and over.

Red Dawg 01-18-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11279252)
Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

Their best offense? Big whoopy doo. They needed us to get in the playoffs.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11279269)
Their best offense? Big whoopy doo. They needed us to get in the playoffs.

He had a better offense than Jim Caldwell, who just had a pretty good season with the Lions.

If Denver has decent QB play, they're going to be a tough out, as usual.

listopencil 01-18-2015 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11279253)
Yes. His team imploded and he cracked under the pressure.

So...you think stress caused his blood to clot?

FloridaMan88 01-18-2015 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11279252)
Kubrick is known for his zone blocking schemes. Eight different running backs have had at least 1,000 yard seasons under Kuniak. The Ravens had their most productive offense under him in the Flacco era.

Elway and Kubiak are buds. Kubiak runs Elway's favorite offensive scheme, which will help him identify players who excel in that scheme. Kubiak's had some prior success as a head coach and just spent a year in Baltimore, which had to be a good learning experience.

Unfortunately for us Chiefs fans, I think this is a very, very good hire. I just hope he doesn't get Vic Fangio to run the defense.

Manning has one season left… so in one offseason Kubiak and Manning are going to learn how to co-exist even though Manning's lack of mobility makes him not an ideal fit for Kubiak's offense?

Also Denver is going to have to adjust their offensive line in one offseason to fit Kubiak's preferred zone blocking scheme.

This seems to be asking for a lot of adjustments/changes to happen in one offseason/season.

notorious 01-18-2015 10:30 PM

Denver won't change their offense to a full Kubiak offense if Peyton comes back.


Like I said, they are planning for AFTER Manning with the Kubiak hire.


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