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Hammock Parties 10-01-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11769679)
Sutton is going to come out in that same awful single high coverage all game against the Bengals like he did Denver and Green Bay because apparently he doesn't know anything else and AJ Green is going to roast the secondary all game and Sutton won't do a thing about it to help the secondary.

Probably be worse this week because we won't get much pressure on the QB.

dj56dt58 10-02-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11768869)
Nelson needs to be activated. He's a ****ing 3rd round pick. The time is over for him to be brought along slowly. Put him at NB and let him get some experience. Cooper/Fleming is just fine at waiting tables at IHOP

Fyp

CoMoChief 10-02-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11768855)
Umm....you don't put your backup SS as your NB and expect them to cover Cobb. That's a ****ing start.

this. i was scratching my head as to why Branch was on Cobb all night....stupid

King_Chief_Fan 10-02-2015 07:42 AM

There is nothing new about this

Sutton is and has been part of the problem

staylor26 10-02-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11769679)
Sutton is going to come out in that same awful single high coverage all game against the Bengals like he did Denver and Green Bay because apparently he doesn't know anything else and AJ Green is going to roast the secondary all game and Sutton won't do a thing about it to help the secondary.

It's sad at this point. Horrible predictable defensive coordinator. Fire him.

That same awful single high coverage worked extremely well last year and will work again now that we have Sean Smith back and we aren't playing Aaron Rodgers again. Some of you are extremely ****ing reeruned with your over reactions.

mcaj22 10-02-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11770071)
That same awful single high coverage worked extremely well last year and will work again now that we have Sean Smith back and we aren't playing Aaron Rodgers again. Some of you are extremely ****ing reeruned with your over reactions.

LOL at you thinking Sean Smith is going to save an entire defensive scheme

Hydrae 10-02-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11769429)
It seems to me that the defense is getting caught in specific coverages and then opposing offenses are going no huddle and exploiting it. Both Manning and Rodgers had a lot of success going no huddle. Perhaps that's affecting their ability to adjust? We saw how late Howard was getting off the field....twice....it's possibly a coaching issue with late subs causing that problem.

Houston moved the ball on us pretty well when they went no huddle also. I think we will see a lot of this going forward as we obviously do not handle it well.

mrbiggz 10-02-2015 08:43 AM

Ummm, why not put Parker or Berry at corner? whomever was our best Athletes at safety should have been moved which even even recovering from lymphoma is Berry.

staylor26 10-02-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11770096)
LOL at you thinking Sean Smith is going to save an entire defensive scheme

Lol at you thinking replacing Cooper/Flemming with a top 10 corner isn't going to make a huge difference. Especially considering said scheme.

BossChief 10-02-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11770071)
That same awful single high coverage worked extremely well last year and will work again now that we have Sean Smith back and we aren't playing Aaron Rodgers again. Some of you are extremely ****ing reeruned with your over reactions.

Gaines and Peters weren't the problem, guy.

Smith and Peters won't be the problem, either.

The problem is the coverage is very predictable and we don't seem to have a lot after the starters on the outside. Suttons inability to make adjustments in game is alarming.

Against Denver, Manning targeted Flemming over and over and Sutton never changed things up, gave Fleming help or anything. He stopped blitzing and left Fleming on an island against really good receivers....then, he did the same thing with Cooper the next week against GB until benching him and putting a box safety in his place.

Just alarmingly mismanaged.

BossChief 10-02-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11770126)
Lol at you thinking replacing Cooper/Flemming with a top 10 corner isn't going to make a huge difference.

Lol @ you thinking we're replacing Fleming/Cooper with Smith.

We're not.

Those guys aren't going anywhere unless they activate Nelson and let him man the slot.

Which, IMO they need to do.

After all, unless they plan on re-signing Sean Smith, that's 2/3 of next years corner trio anyway...roll with the rookie and let him learn from mistakes.

staylor26 10-02-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11770130)
Lol @ you thinking we're replacing Fleming/Cooper with Smith.

We're not.

Those guys aren't going anywhere unless they activate Nelson and let him man the slot.

Which, IMO they need to do.

After all, unless they plan on re-signing Sean Smith, that's 2/3 of next years corner trio anyway...roll with the rookie and let him learn from mistakes.

I am obviously assuming Nelson will be the nickel.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-02-2015 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11769679)
Sutton is going to come out in that same awful single high coverage all game against the Bengals like he did Denver and Green Bay because apparently he doesn't know anything else and AJ Green is going to roast the secondary all game and Sutton won't do a thing about it to help the secondary.

It's sad at this point. Horrible predictable defensive coordinator. Fire him.

Horrible predictable ban worthy post. Top 5 in points allowed the last two years. How about the offense converts some third downs and we don't give QBs like Manning and Rodgers a million possessions.

Mr. Laz 10-02-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11770071)
That same awful single high coverage worked extremely well last year and will work again now that we have Sean Smith back and we aren't playing Aaron Rodgers again. Some of you are extremely ****ing reeruned with your over reactions.

You can't run the same scheme over and over again, the NFL adjusts.

It worked extremely well last year and every team saw that and adjusted.

You have to keep moving and adjusting or you fall behind.


Even Marty Shottenheimer figured that out at the end.

The Franchise 10-02-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11770148)
Horrible predictable ban worthy post. Top 5 in points allowed the last two years. How about the offense converts some third downs and we don't give QBs like Manning and Rodgers a million possessions.

While I agree that a majority of this is on the offense.......Sutton needs to eat his shit as well. It's ****ing inexcusable that Houston and Hali drop into coverage as much as they do. Especially in the situations that they do.


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