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Prison Bitch 11-03-2015 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11862770)
Why can't you always post good shit like this?

I mean it's valuable and actually insightful.

Thanks. Good post.

Steamer has Zobrist at 3.9 too, loves him. Colon at 1.0 full season. The difference between say 85 & 88 wins probably means enough to take the Central again. I am not getting my hopes up because that guy is going to have about 20 suitors.


Need to work on Salvy too.

ROYC75 11-03-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11862662)
Gomes is here next year, isn't he?

I wouldn't think so, leave this spot open for some younger talent to come up and hold. Johnny will want to play somewhere next year more often than to get used 1 time per week.

tk13 11-03-2015 08:50 PM

If Gordon would just post Torii Hunter type numbers the next 4 years that'd be a huge win to keep him. He takes such good care of himself I could see it. Torii Hunter posted positive WAR both offensively and defensively most years until he was 37. He had one poor defensive year in there but in total... he was a productive player.

Bob Dole 11-03-2015 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 11862853)
I wouldn't think so, leave this spot for some younger talent to come up and hold. Johnny will want to play somewhere next year more often than to get used 1 time per week.

Bob Dole was suggesting that he would address the "2 corner OF" need if necessary.

Bob Dole 11-03-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 11862648)
I would prefer we go "cheap" in right to be able to keep Gordo, Zobrist, Young and Madson. Orlando, Dyson, Eibner, Bubba --- let them compete for the job and may the best man win.

Which is why Bob Dole asked about Gomes...

ROYC75 11-03-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11862857)
Bob Dole was suggesting that he would address the "2 corner OF" need if necessary.

IMHO, Johnny's defense is poor, his sole purpose is he feeds off LH pitching and has a positive, professional approach to the locker room. Dyson, Orlando and possibly Bonifacio, Starling and or Eibner ( spelling ) should be able to work the outfield backup positions.

ROYC75 11-03-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11862859)
Which is why Bob Dole asked about Gomes...

It's called the Johnny bandwagon...... FTR, he gave a charged up speech today!:clap:

SAUTO 11-03-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11862847)
Steamer has Zobrist at 3.9 too, loves him. Colon at 1.0 full season. The difference between say 85 & 88 wins probably means enough to take the Central again. I am not getting my hopes up because that guy is going to have about 20 suitors.


Need to work on Salvy too.

Can't work on salvy from what I've read

Bob Dole 11-03-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 11862870)
It's called the Johnny bandwagon...... FTR, he gave a charged up speech today!:clap:

Looks like he is here next season on the cheap.

duncan_idaho 11-03-2015 09:27 PM

I think those are very conservative value estimates for Gordon, whose great defense is more about positioning, making great reads, and controlling extra bases with his arm.

His offensive profile is one that should hold up well, too. Think KC will have to go 5/80-85 to make it happen ( and that's with some home town discount).

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11862918)
I think those are very conservative value estimates for Gordon, whose great defense is more about positioning, making great reads, and controlling extra bases with his arm.

His offensive profile is one that should hold up well, too. Think KC will have to go 5/80-85 to make it happen ( and that's with some home town discount).

I could be wrong but from my perception, it would be a PR nightmare for the Glass family to lose Gordon over a few million per.

ChiefsCountry 11-03-2015 09:56 PM

The offseason needs IMO:
1. Resign Gordon. Pretty obvious IMO.
2. Which Position Do You Platoon? 2B or RF. Do you invest in Zobrist? Platoon Dyson/Orlando/Gomes. Dyson great OPS against righties, Gomes great OPS against lefties. Or do you go out and get a RF via free agency or trade? Play Colon or gasp Infante. Say you make a play for Puig hypothetically. Puig/Colon or Zobrist/Dyson-Orlando?
3. Starting Pitching - Need to make a run at 3rd/4th starter type. Mike Leake, Ian Kennedy, Brett Anderson type.
4. Bullpen Depth - Might lose a couple of the backend pieces. Trust Dayton on that one.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-03-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11862855)
If Gordon would just post Torii Hunter type numbers the next 4 years that'd be a huge win to keep him. He takes such good care of himself I could see it. Torii Hunter posted positive WAR both offensively and defensively most years until he was 37. He had one poor defensive year in there but in total... he was a productive player.

He's also a massive outlier post-PEDs.

O.city 11-03-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11862918)
I think those are very conservative value estimates for Gordon, whose great defense is more about positioning, making great reads, and controlling extra bases with his arm.

His offensive profile is one that should hold up well, too. Think KC will have to go 5/80-85 to make it happen ( and that's with some home town discount).

Hamas brought it up in another thread and i'd never really correlated the two, but do you think Gordon takes a deal that much less than what Werth took?

ChiefsCountry 11-03-2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11863046)
Hamas brought it up in another thread and i'd never really correlated the two, but do you think Gordon takes a deal that much less than what Werth took?

Lot of similar players to Gordon in that corner outfielder market. That will drive price down.


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