Eric Berry started in the probowl as a rookie. He was never talked about as a bust.

Son, we're going to have to work out a proper bet between us this year.

:DI'm thinking I need my yard mowed all next year.

Did you miss all of the "he's just a box safety" and "he can't cover tight ends" talk? I don't know if he was considered a bust but there was a lot of talk that he wasn't worth the cap hit and he was overdrafted.

I just found the quote "a process takes time" to be hilarious. Wasn't using it to comment on his skills or potential in any way.

As for lazy, DJ seems to say otherwise fwii.

Shwartz seems to say otherwise fwii.

Say the bet and I will take it :D

I think someone said that Dee Ford looked like a 'kid brother' in how he interacts with his teammates.

I think that's probably spot on. I don't think he has the emotional maturity he needs to be a difference maker. He doesn't seem to recognize that this is some next level shit he's doing and the effort needs to match that. The intensity needs to match that.

This isn't screwing around with your buddies and relying on absurd athleticism to win while he was at Auburn. Everybody he goes against is as physically imposing as he is in some way. And while he says some of the right things, you can see in his body language (and the other things he says) that the 'right things' are just coach speak; lip-service that he's been taught to say but hasn't really internalized.

What people are calling 'laid back' reads more and more as just flat naive, immature and perhaps unintelligent. Houston and Hali are fairly laid back when they're not on the field, but when they're between the lines or when they're preparing for same, a switch is flipped.

I'm more and more concerned that the switch just isn't there for Ford. I'm hoping he isn't the good-hearted simpleton that he comes across as so often. He's moving closer and closer to Lennie from Of Mouse and Men...

Well, lets see. I think it should have to be about how many sacks he gets this year. Last year Houston got 7.5, Hali got 6.5 Howard 5.5, Bailey 4.5.

I'm thinking Ford doesn't even get 7.

I'd kick the tires in Kruger after the cut from Cleveland. He probably isn't gonna be a world beater, but he'd be better than alot of what we've got

What's the story on Kruger .I don't remember anything about him.

Eric Berry underperformed for 2 years, and was called a bust by many. Last year was his first year where he really excelled.


Matt Cassel made the pro bowl as well.

Lolwut

I will take the over over on 7, with the stipulation he plays a full season.


Had a good 2014 season, but only had 2.5 sacks last year. Cleveland saved 5mil+ on cutting him.

You really think no one has been calling Berry a bust and not worthy of a 5th overall pick? Go back and read dude. It's the same argument with everyone on the planet. A player doesn't dominate in the first two years, and people are calling for them to be cut. Out of the list I posted, Berry was obviously the most impactful player, but he still had struggles, and had many calling him a bust.


I specifically remember many people calling him a bust after a string of games where he was getting torched by TE's.

OK, I'll bet you that Ford doesn't get 7 sacks during this regular season. He has to be healthy enough to play the entire season.
The bet is for one year of signature rights and you mow my yard 4 times against my $50.