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Baby Lee 10-03-2016 02:52 PM

As bad as yesterday was, the glory of the NFL is it still only counts as one loss.
No different in the big picture than if we'd had a defensive stalemate or a gunslinging shootout decided at the gun by a missed FG.
Plus, it was a road loss
Minus, it was a conference loss.

Other than that, it's history. On to the next opponent.

Everyone can spitter and sputter, but that's the way successful competitors look at it.

Easy 6 10-03-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12464358)
As bad as yesterday was, the glory of the NFL is it still only counts as one loss.
No different in the big picture than if we'd had a defensive stalemate or a gunslinging shootout decided at the gun by a missed FG.
Plus, it was a road loss
Minus, it was a conference loss.

Other than that, it's history. On to the next opponent.

Everyone can spitter and sputter, but that's the way successful competitors look at it.

It isnt just that we lost, its HOW we lost

The Chiefs were absolutely unprepared in every single phase of the game, that is inexcuseable

Hammock Parties 10-03-2016 02:59 PM

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Baby Lee 10-03-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12464364)
It isnt just that we lost, its HOW we lost

The Chiefs were absolutely unprepared in every single phase of the game, that is inexcuseable

No one's looking for excuses.

The loss will be a loss tomorrow, and in preseason 2017, and in 2150.

Doesn't have anything to do with how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12464378)
how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

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Beef Supreme 10-03-2016 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12464401)

ROFL

Mr. Laz 10-03-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12464378)
No one's looking for excuses.

The loss will be a loss tomorrow, and in preseason 2017, and in 2150.

Doesn't have anything to do with how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

Yea, but the poor way we prepare for the Steelers is definitely an issue when it comes to how well we are probably going to prepare for the Raiders and other future games.

Shitty trends tend to remain shitty

RippedmyFlesh 10-03-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12463783)
Just have to recover and finish strong, that's all there is to it

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Bugeater 10-03-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12463606)
Serious question here:

Why does it take an ass-raping like yesterday for the homers to finally wake up?

Uhhh...read some of TigerHomerbone's reeruned posts.

xztop123 10-03-2016 05:19 PM

The problems are basically in order of suckage

1) Zombo. Literally never gets pressure - Houston will fix this

2) D-line pass rush. not sure whos sucking hard but I dont think Bailey has any pass rush moves, its time to play the guy we drafted, and maybe start him.

3) The offense was at its best with West, not Ware. West is the best pass catching RB on the team and is ideal for the offense, that needs a Brian Westbrook presence.

4) Reid has some weird playcalling idiosyncrasies.... That fake bubble screen quick slant play ALWAYS works but he only uses it ONE time per game... usually the first drive... Does he think that using it more than once simply will not work? I don't understand this.

5) its very possible Doug Pederson was responsible for the success we had last year and that without him we will keep seeing odd playcalling.

chiefzilla1501 10-03-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 12464551)
The problems are basically in order of suckage

1) Zombo. Literally never gets pressure - Houston will fix this

2) D-line pass rush. not sure whos sucking hard but I dont think Bailey has any pass rush moves, its time to play the guy we drafted, and maybe start him.

3) The offense was at its best with West, not Ware. West is the best pass catching RB on the team and is ideal for the offense, that needs a Brian Westbrook presence.

4) Reid has some weird playcalling idiosyncrasies.... That fake bubble screen quick slant play ALWAYS works but he only uses it ONE time per game... usually the first drive... Does he think that using it more than once simply will not work? I don't understand this.

5) its very possible Doug Pederson was responsible for the success we had last year and that without him we will keep seeing odd playcalling.

In that order? The Chiefs have played 8 halves this year. The Chiefs' D showed up for 5 of 8 of those halves. Our offense has shown up for 2 or 3 of 8, and that's being generous since the Jets game was gift wrapped for the offense.

Actually, let's run that over Reid's entire run. The % seems about the same. The defense showed up 75% of the time, the offense showed up 25% of the time. And the offense has no excuses. They are playing with better talent this year than the one they had to end last year. A big chunk of last night's blame can be attributed to lack of a pass rush and DJ White, backups forced into a starting role due to injury. The offensive problems are primarily on the shoulders of Andy Reid and Alex Smith, two guys who are not injured whatsoever. That's cause for concern.

xztop123 10-03-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12464620)
In that order? The Chiefs have played 8 halves this year. The Chiefs' D showed up for 5 of 8 of those halves. Our offense has shown up for 2 or 3 of 8, and that's being generous since the Jets game was gift wrapped for the offense.

Actually, let's run that over Reid's entire run. The % seems about the same. The defense showed up 75% of the time, the offense showed up 25% of the time. And the offense has no excuses. They are playing with better talent this year than the one they had to end last year. A big chunk of last night's blame can be attributed to lack of a pass rush and DJ White, backups forced into a starting role due to injury. The offensive problems are primarily on the shoulders of Andy Reid and Alex Smith, two guys who are not injured whatsoever. That's cause for concern.

Well the two fumbles cost us points both games. A lot of people just look at the score board and determine how well the offense is playing (or isnt playing) Had the Hill Td's held up it would look like our o is doing better than it is. Yards and stuff the O isn't doing that terribly.

My issue with the offense is that it takes so long to get plays in. So far everytime we let Smith run a no huddle, we've had success but Reid seems like a control freak with the playcalling.

chiefzilla1501 10-03-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 12464680)
Well the two fumbles cost us points both games. A lot of people just look at the score board and determine how well the offense is playing (or isnt playing) Had the Hill Td's held up it would look like our o is doing better than it is. Yards and stuff the O isn't doing that terribly.

My issue with the offense is that it takes so long to get plays in. So far everytime we let Smith run a no huddle, we've had success but Reid seems like a control freak with the playcalling.

For one game, sure. But I'll look at the long-term view on this....

New problems: Plays are taking even longer to get in than the slow time it took last year. Our over-reliance on the sideway screen game -- we're throwing sideways passes that aren't working over and over and over again even when we're down by 2, 3, 4 TDs. Alex Smith can't see beyond his initial read -- arguably, he's gotten worse with a better OL, as interestingly he isn't running as much as he used to. It seems like his game is maybe built off of one read, then run... not a trend I'm terribly excited about.

Old problems: Alex Smith has no urgency whatsoever until he's down 2-3 scores, or down a score in the 4th. Andy Reid's game management still sucks.

Reid/Dorsey made the strategic decision to invest a lot in the pass offense. To the point where I believe it's eating big time into our defense. The problem is, the D is understandably declining and the O is getting worse despite better talent. That's cause for concern and right now, Reid and Smith, the two guys who are our mainstays are the biggest part of our problem. By a mile.

tecumseh 10-03-2016 06:57 PM

Yep. Blahblahblah. After last night, I'm ready to see what Foles can do. I know Andy calls the plays but the QB can audible.

tecumseh 10-03-2016 06:58 PM

Last night Smith played like Bambi lost in the woods. #$%^ Composure. Show some emotion.


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