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Sandy Vagina 11-21-2016 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12569019)
This was a classic game as to where the offense really needed to step up and carry the defense...

We all seen what was happening to defense....

And yes there inst any room for error.... Reid play calling and Smiths horrific QB play make the margin almost non existent... IT has to be perfectly executed. One 3 and out can derail the whole day and game plan.
I agree with your first sentence in particular, but show me this O underwhelm like that with the good version of Maclin on the field, and I'd lose more hope.

Missing the good Mac is indeed a HUGE loss. Having Andy call the plays he does at times... HUGE loss.

rabblerouser 11-21-2016 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12569026)
The defense has been good at 2 things this year - keeping the other team from scoring touchdowns and turning the ball over. The defense is average against the pass and weak against the run. It's not like the defense has been just shutting teams down all year. They are giving up lots of yards, but preventing teams from scoring. Which is all that matters.

What happens when the defense doesn't cause the turnovers it's been getting? You saw it yesterday.

For the record - through 10 games - defensively, KC ranks 16th against the pass, 27th against the run, and 25th overall.....and 5th in points allowed and tied for 1st in turnover differential.

Actually, both teams had one turnover yesterday.

One team actually got points off their turnover, and the other one punted.

The team that did not turn their turnover into points is the team that lost the game.

RunKC 11-21-2016 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12569014)
Yet if Alex came out and blamed his defense we would all agree that would be the stupid thing to do as the team leader. To insinuate complete blame on him because he took the high road in his press conference shows your lack of intelligence.

Alex has never blamed receivers, players, or coaches thru his career. It's why Andy picked him. It's why he gets paid 17 mil a year and has the winning record that he does.


Facts, not fiction.
Fact-the Chiefs defense gave up 19 points.
Fact-19 points is below the league average points scored per game (23.5 is the avg)
Fact-19 points allowed a game average is 10th best in the NFL on defense amongst avg points allowed per game.
Fact-the Chiefs scored 17 points
Fact-17 points scored is good for 29th in the NFL amongst the NFL points scored per game average

You. Are. A. Moron.

The Franchise 11-21-2016 10:10 AM
So let's get this straight.....

Defense does it's job and holds a team to 17 points....AND scores a defensive TD AND causes a turnover that allows the offense to kick a game winning FG.

All Alex does is win.

Defense holds a team to 19 points but doesn't chip in any points and doesn't stop the other team after Alex throws a game losing INT in the redzone.

What the ****, defense!?!?!? Alex can't do everything!

Reerun_KC 11-21-2016 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569041)
So let's get this straight.....

Defense does it's job and holds a team to 17 points....AND scores a defensive TD AND causes a turnover that allows the offense to kick a game winning FG.

All Alex does is win.

Defense holds a team to 19 points but doesn't chip in any points and doesn't stop the other team after Alex throws a game losing INT in the redzone.

What the ****, defense!?!?!? Alex can't do everything!
Welcome to Post Clayanus CP....

ROFL

WhiteWhale 11-21-2016 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12569040)
Fact-the Chiefs defense gave up 19 points.
Fact-19 points is below the league average points scored per game (23.5 is the avg)
Fact-19 points allowed a game average is 10th best in the NFL on defense amongst avg points allowed per game.
Fact-the Chiefs scored 17 points
Fact-17 points scored is good for 29th in the NFL amongst the NFL points scored per game average

You. Are. A. Moron.
It's like teaching a child to use velcro.

How hard is it to understand that an offense that struggles to score 20 points is a major problem?

rabblerouser 11-21-2016 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12569020)
He doesn't have the intelligence to understand this concept, give him a break.
This is why there are those of us can bring logic and actually donate to this place...and others resort to 5th grade name calling.
Well, he also no longer seems to harbor the intelligence needed to ascertain red jerseys from various other colors...

Maybe he needs to go back to kindergarten art class, relearn the primary colors...then he can learn to throw to his teammates.

Or how about getting a QB that isn't broke, dumb, and colorblind?

fan4ever 11-21-2016 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by smasher (Post 12568943)
This team's problems:

50% Andy Reid
25% Alex Smith's regression
25% Injuries
I'll agree to that...I don't care if we had Tom Brady in the backfield, Reid's play calling, game/clock management are all guarantees this team will only go so far...and I've had a lifetime of that. Was a Smith backer until the last two games...I now see him for what he is and so do opposing defenses.

Dayze 11-21-2016 10:13 AM
If you think your team has a shot at winning a championship (which is the ultimate and only goal) with Alex at the helm, then I don't know what to say to you lol.

If you enjoy watching the season and don't really care if we win a SB, that's fine.
But don't get sideways with people complaining about Alex because they're likely sour on him because they realize there's zero chance of winning a Championship with him.

Mr. Plow 11-21-2016 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569041)
Defense holds a team to 19 points but doesn't chip in any points and doesn't stop the other team after Alex throws a game losing INT in the redzone.

What the ****, defense!?!?!? Alex can't do everything!
That was literally the difference in the game. The defense didn't have the big turnover to put the offense in a short yardage scoring position. Which, those aren't going to happen every game - so like a lot of us have been saying, the offense is going to have to step up, drive the field, and score. Which is fantasy football which we don't like.

The first offensive possession was very good....at least until we got down in the redzone.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-21-2016 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12569037)
Actually, both teams had one turnover yesterday.

One team actually got points off their turnover, and the other one punted.

The team that did not turn their turnover into points is the team that lost the game.
Or how about the defense had 2 chances in the 4th quarter to stop the Bucs but allowed 5 minutes to come off the clock resulting in a touchdown when we were only down a score.

At least Smith and the offense did what was needed after the defense couldn't at least hold TB to a field goal: score a touchdown

Facts. Not fiction.

rabblerouser 11-21-2016 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569041)
So let's get this straight.....

Defense does it's job and holds a team to 17 points....AND scores a defensive TD AND causes a turnover that allows the offense to kick a game winning FG.

All Alex does is win.

Defense holds a team to 19 points but doesn't chip in any points and doesn't stop the other team after Alex throws a game losing INT in the redzone.

What the ****, defense!?!?!? Alex can't do everything!
That is the stupid permeating CP on Mon, Nov 19. Or is it the 20th??
Doesn't matter; Tiggie is stupid forever.

jonzie04 11-21-2016 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12569040)
Fact-the Chiefs defense gave up 19 points.
Fact-19 points is below the league average points scored per game (23.5 is the avg)
Fact-19 points allowed a game average is 10th best in the NFL on defense amongst avg points allowed per game.
Fact-the Chiefs scored 17 points
Fact-17 points scored is good for 29th in the NFL amongst the NFL points scored per game average

You. Are. A. Moron.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569041)
So let's get this straight.....

Defense does it's job and holds a team to 17 points....AND scores a defensive TD AND causes a turnover that allows the offense to kick a game winning FG.

All Alex does is win.

Defense holds a team to 19 points but doesn't chip in any points and doesn't stop the other team after Alex throws a game losing INT in the redzone.

What the ****, defense!?!?!? Alex can't do everything!


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WhiteWhale 11-21-2016 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 12569046)
I'll agree to that...I don't care if we had Tom Brady in the backfield, Reid's play calling, game/clock management are all guarantees this team will only go so far...and I've had a lifetime of that. Was a Smith backer until the last two games...I now see him for what he is and so do opposing defenses.
A tight end jet sweep in the red zone is among the worst plays I've ever seen called.

The Franchise 11-21-2016 10:15 AM
BlackBob is a troll and should be treated as such.


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