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POND_OF_RED 12-01-2016 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12589589)
I dont recall any story of Gronks workout habits. All anyone sees of him in the off season is goofing off.
What's funny is even his workout story makes him sound like a douchebag.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2016 02:49 PM
If Gronk wasn't the meathead that he is, I would think retirement would be in the realm of possibilities...

I don't expect it, but these back issues are unlike many you ever hear of. 3 times? At what point does your future state of health come into play?

There's no way he comes back this year at least. Not if he's got a brain at all.

ptlyon 12-01-2016 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 12589592)
What's funny is even his workout story makes him sound like a douchebag.
Does he T bag someone on the plate bench or something?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-01-2016 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589434)
You're right -- Gronk is an awesome blocker.


Look, Tony G was a great goddamn tight end. But Gronk is without question the best TE in NFL history, putting aside longevity. He's ****ing ridiculous. He's the Babe Ruth of TEs. Most touchdowns by a TE in a season, most yards. Only TE in NFL history to have 3 years with 10+ TDs and 1,000+ yards. The list is kinda ridiculous.

But yeah, health. Tony G was pretty damn healthy for many, many years, and Gronk just can't say the same.
Gronk healthy is the best tight end in history.
You look at Brady's QB rating it drops more than 15 points when Gronk isn't on the field

ptlyon 12-01-2016 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12589625)
You look at Brady's QB rating it drops more than 15 points when Gronk isn't on the field
Good.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-01-2016 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12589627)
Good.
Huzzah!!! :)

Rain Man 12-01-2016 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589543)
You honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.
I do the same thing when my wife and I are watching TV. Do Gronkowski and Edelman actually do the pushups, though? That may be where we diverge.

philfree 12-01-2016 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12589543)
You honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.
And that's supposed to illustrate work ethic? That's laughable. Got a buzz on "let's do fify pushups" Woowhooooo!

Red Dawg 12-01-2016 03:11 PM
Gronk is a bad ass for certain and if keeps playing he will go down perhaps as the best ever but Gonzo played with horrible QBs and faced constant double teams. His stats are untouchable even for Gronk at this point and no way in hell he last 15 years and without Brady I doubt he keeps going up.

ThaVirus 12-01-2016 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12589625)
Gronk healthy is the best tight end in history.

You look at Brady's QB rating it drops more than 15 points when Gronk isn't on the field

Are we ignoring the fact that Brady had established himself as an elite QB long before they drafted Gronk?

RunKC 12-01-2016 03:16 PM
Gronk in 15 years will need to be wheelchaired up the stairs. He's ****ed

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-01-2016 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12589663)
Are we ignoring the fact that Brady had established himself as an elite QB long before they drafted Gronk?
Facts be facts, Brady without Moss or Gronk is a great QB but does not play to an elite level as seen by his production and win/loss record. ESPN even highlighted this and they are the biggest Pats homers

ThaVirus 12-01-2016 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12589676)
Facts be facts, Brady without Moss or Gronk is a great QB but does not play to an elite level as seen by his production and win/loss record. ESPN even highlighted this and they are the biggest Pats homers

LMAO OK. Show me Brady's win/loss record without Gronk and Moss.

Include Super Bowls too, you ****ing dumbass.

suzzer99 12-01-2016 03:25 PM
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Rain Man 12-01-2016 03:27 PM
Stats through their first seven seasons:

Gronkowski - 617 rec, 6,095 yards, 68 TDs, 9.9 ypc, 4 pro bowls (figures may rise a little if he comes back this year)
Gonzalez - 468 rec, 5,652 yards, 47 TDs, 12.1 ypc, 5 pro bowls

To match Gonzalez, Gronkowski need to play 10 more years and get another 708 catches for 9,032 yards, 43 TDs and 10 pro bowls.

Best season based on number of receptions:

Gronkowski - 90 rec, 1,327 yards, 17 TDs, 14.7 ypc
Gonzalez - 102 rec, 1,258 yards, 7 TDs, 12.3 ypc


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