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CdnSteelerFan 10-16-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13156732)
Go **** yourself, Steelers fan.

I'm not here to get into a pissing match with anyone, just here to talk football.

vailpass 10-16-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CdnSteelerFan (Post 13156745)
I'm not here to get into a pissing match with anyone, just here to talk football.

Well that sucks.

CdnSteelerFan 10-16-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13156749)
Well that sucks.

That was a good game yesterday and fortunately for me, the Steelers won. The way the Chiefs played in the fourth quarter, I figured for sure Pitt was going to blow it. Hopefully these teams will have a rematch in the playoffs, although I don't think my heart could take any more of that kind of excitement. Like they say, any given Sunday. It's only a game, no point in getting bent out of shape over it.

Chief Pagan 10-16-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13155911)
My issue with the call is that it's completely counter to the spirit of the game even if it's technically the right call (which I still am not convinced of). He never "lost control of the ball" - it was always in his possession even if his arms weren't technically wrapped solidly around it the whole time.

It's yet another example of how instant replay has done more harm to the game than good. Nothing makes sense anymore.

Without replay, you don't have the fine arguments about what is/isn't a catch/TD. When a ref makes a call that you think is incorrect when you get to see the slow motion replay, you don't know if the ref just didn't see it right or if the ref did see it right but has a different interpolation of the rules.

So replay means that the replay officials have to draw very fine lines between all these different scenarios and fans can now argue over them. They have to both make fine distinction between what is and isn't a catch. Additionally, they have to draw fine lines between what is sufficient evidence to overturn a call on the field.

If you are going to have replay, you are going to have these problems regardless of where the line is drawn. I think replay has improved the game. It's not perfect, but perfection is unobtainable.

The other option is to get rid of replay.

My $0.02 worth.

Chief Pagan 10-16-2017 03:27 PM

I think they got the call correct, but it is really close. I think that replay officials in general are too conservative in overturning calls. But the more important issue, is to be consistent. Given the deference that is usually given to the call on the field, I can see why fans thought it should be allowed to stand.

And I would change the rule so that the offense got the ball back at the location of the fumble instead of it being a touchback.

gblowfish 10-16-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CdnSteelerFan (Post 13156745)
I'm not here to get into a pissing match with anyone, just here to talk football.

That's Pest's way of saying "Hi. How are you today? I'm Fine. Are you fine too?"

Amnorix 10-16-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13155917)
Does it ever bother you just a tiny bit how often these kinds of things always end up going the Pats way? Or does it just seem normal after all of these years?






You mean like when the Patriots lost a touchdown because a ref blew an "inadvertent whistle"?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cw2MQHfBV9o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


How about when the refs wouldn't let Brady hike the ball for some inexplicable reason?


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How about, on the final play of the game, when Kuechly -- back to the ball -- just drove Gronk backwards out of the end zone? A play where Kuechly recently "I probably got away with one there"

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How about when the Patriots were called for pushing from behind during a field goal (IIRC the first time that penalty was ever called) to help the Jets win a game in OT, when the Jets had done the EXACT same thing at the end of regulation earlier in that very same game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xO4A1OFDM&t=234

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh94vgwbPEo


Or when the Patriots won the toss for OT but somehow the ref decided the Patriots wnated to kick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qo4vRNj774


But hey, enjoy your confirmation bias!!

Bwana 10-16-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CdnSteelerFan (Post 13156745)
I'm not here to get into a pissing match with anyone, just here to talk football.

That works.

KCUnited 10-16-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CdnSteelerFan (Post 13156766)
That was a good game yesterday and fortunately for me, the Steelers won. The way the Chiefs played in the fourth quarter, I figured for sure Pitt was going to blow it. Hopefully these teams will have a rematch in the playoffs, although I don't think my heart could take any more of that kind of excitement. Like they say, any given Sunday. It's only a game, no point in getting bent out of shape over it.

That game had all the excitement of a subtitled holocaust documentary.

notorious 10-16-2017 05:02 PM

I find myself opening more and more threads to see what KCUnited has posted.


He does not disappoint.


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