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Coochie liquor 01-13-2018 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13357714)
BTW if you want to look towards a "progressive" coach you start and begin with Lebeau.

You can line up black players who gave their all for that man and would back him up to this day. And he was about production, above all, but a hard assed man who was fair.
ummm why do they have to be black?

Rausch 01-13-2018 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13357852)
ummm why do they have to be black?
BECAUSE THEY WERE.

Rausch 01-13-2018 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13357852)
ummm why do they have to be black?
I'm sorry, black players and KEVIN GREENE made his defense.

Am I racist for stating that DOC ****ING SAVAGE played in the 90's?

lcarus 01-13-2018 12:51 PM
I guess we'll just blow another 20+ point lead in a crucial game and have this conversation yet again...

ILChief 01-13-2018 07:22 PM
When we the last time the Chiefs fired an offensive or defensive coordinator? I know we have fired head coaches which changed coordinators, but when was the last time we kept the same head coach and that coach fired an OC or DC? Was it vermeil axing Robinson?

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2018 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13358930)
When we the last time the Chiefs fired an offensive or defensive coordinator? I know we have fired head coaches which changed coordinators, but when was the last time we kept the same head coach and that coach fired an OC or DC? Was it vermeil axing Robinson?
Depending on who you believe about whether someone left or got fired. There are plenty during the haley years. Pendergast, Weis, Bill Muir. Before that, Solari was fired by herm and replaced with Chan Gailey.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2018 07:35 PM
The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

PHOG 01-13-2018 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13358985)
The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.
No, hope not.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2018 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13358985)
The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.
2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

Priest31kc 01-13-2018 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13358985)
The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.
Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

PHOG 01-13-2018 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13359284)
Yep.



I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.
If he is, then he (Reid) should be fired now.

Chief Northman 01-13-2018 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13359284)
Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.
Yeah. Allowing a running back over 150 yards, and giving up over 200 rushing yards total when everyone in the world knows they are going to run. Great defense.

I swear half this fanbase are legally blind.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2018 08:53 PM
The truth is this defense played well enough to earn the #1 seed, and QB play screwed it up.

If we had a QB who could come through in the clutch against Pittsburgh, Buffalo and the Giants...13-3....#1 seed.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2018 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359382)
The truth is this defense played well enough to earn the #1 seed, and QB play screwed it up.

If we had a QB who could come through in the clutch against Pittsburgh, Buffalo and the Giants...13-3....#1 seed.
2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

RunKC 01-13-2018 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359382)
The truth is this defense played well enough to earn the #1 seed.
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