Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13363907)

You just said it all right there. "... a team can win with the next group of qb's as long as the team around them and the coaching is great."

Just what the Chiefs have been trying to replicate for 25 years. It ain't easy. It's the hard way, if we're being objective.

This is why Mahomes was always QB1 in my mind. He was the only guy with a shot to reach that elite ceiling IMO this year. I know I wasn't alone in that camp. And sure, he's far from establishing himself as that guy as he has only played in one game, but the traits you look for, the traits we see in those blue chip QBs... he has them all.

It remains to be seen if he will reach his ceiling but the point is that finally the Chiefs are trying to do this thing the right way. If this thing works out, having an amazing surrounding cast all of the sudden becomes much less significant. Maybe you just need a good defense, not a great one. Maybe you just need a good coach, not a great one.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13363907)

It remains to be seen if he will reach his ceiling but the point is that finally the Chiefs are trying to do this thing the right way. If this thing works out, having an amazing surrounding cast all of the sudden becomes much less significant. Maybe you just need a good defense, not a great one. Maybe you just need a good coach, not a great one.

Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 13363910)

WTF, are you a freaking idiot or what?

Its what Cowherd is saying correct, you need an elite qb to win. Its all I ever read in here is how we cant win cause Alex is not elite enough. So be it, but the qb's listed as elite (with the exception of Brady and Ben) have a very very hard time winning them, so what gives you dumbass.

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 13363664)

Gotta have "it". No one know what "it" is, but when you have it, you are elite. In any profession.

He and PTI are the only things I watch on ESPN with regularity.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13363920)

On offense, sure. You absolutely have to have a strong defense. That’s not negotiable.

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 13363922)

I've rewatched Mahomes from his Week 17 game countless numbers of times.
I don't know if he has "it", but goddamn am I excited to find out in 2018.

Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 13363919)

Well you could be right of course but really only Brady and Ben have taken their teams to the promised land on any consistent basis. Rodgers who most consider as the best pure qb in the NFL today cant do it and Bree's cant either.

Sure hope Pat is that guy but to put it all on 1 player even if its the most important position is folly IMO.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13363949)

If Alex smith were the QB in a situation like the Vikings last night at the end of the game, he'd have taken a sack or thrown a dump off to the RB with 14 seconds and no Time outs instead of throwing the rock downfield into coverage.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13363672)

Bayless and Stephen A Smith TRY and find ways to interject politics into sports. I just can't stand it. It's always the main argument with them.

Cowherd at least has his own takes. Some days he's bold with the truth and other days he's so far off I turn the station...

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13363977)

This is the same guy who a couple weeks ago said the chiefs would lose to the Patriots and brees/Ryan would still be in the playoffs. Oh and that Steelers would beat the Jags.
He's inconsistently stupid the last year and so

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13363977)

This is the same guy who a couple weeks ago said the chiefs would lose to the Patriots and brees/Ryan would still be in the playoffs. Oh and that Steelers would beat the Jags.
He's inconsistently stupid the last year and so