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TEX 08-26-2018 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13693821)
I don't think Veach is clueless. I think he's following what his coach wants to do and what he thinks is a best plan for rebuilding the team. The pass rush was terrible last year and so was the run defense. I think Veach realized that he couldn't fix everything in one year, so he tried to bolster the front 7 with hopes they could make offenses more one dimensional against them. I'd look for him to address more of the secondary next season and I wouldn't doubt add another pass rusher.

Probably correct.

Randallflagg 08-26-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13693554)
Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders


:thumb:

Chiefshrink 08-26-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13693821)
I don't think Veach is clueless. I think he's following what his coach wants to do and what he thinks is a best plan for rebuilding the team. The pass rush was terrible last year and so was the run defense. I think Veach realized that he couldn't fix everything in one year, so he tried to bolster the front 7 with hopes they could make offenses more one dimensional against them. I'd look for him to address more of the secondary next season and I wouldn't doubt add another pass rusher.

You are correct Reid calls the shots, period.

milkman 08-26-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13694548)
You are correct Reid calls the shots, period.

You need to shut the **** up. you ****ing moron.

Chiefshrink 08-26-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13694550)
You need to shut the **** up. you ****ing moron.

I think you seriously need an attitude adjustment therefore a good first step would be to replace your leaky tampon.:D

milkman 08-26-2018 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13694554)
I think you seriously need an attitude adjustment therefore a good first step would be to replace your leaky tampon.:D

Jesus, even your attempts at insults are putrid, weak, and ****ing moronic.

I hope to hell you have somebody to wipe your ass for you, otherwise your shit goes everywhere you go.

Chiefshrink 08-26-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13694564)
Jesus, even your attempts at insults are putrid, weak, and ****ing moronic.

I hope to hell you have somebody to wipe your ass for you, otherwise your shit goes everywhere you go.

Look in the mirror my friend. It is obvious you have run out of "depends" which also might explain your very bad attitude.:D

BlackOp 08-26-2018 09:21 PM

I think Veach tried to duplicate what Dorsey did with S. Smith...Amerson was pretty highly touted coming out of college. The only problem was he didn't have a contingency in place in case his reclamation project didn't work out...so on to Scandrick.

It was a one year deal...so not terrible on that end. They kicked the tires...and the whole "change of scenery" tip. I'm sure they're working the upcoming cuts pretty hard...

"In 2011, Amerson recorded 13 interceptions, which tied for second-most in NCAA history (Al Worley from Washington set the record with 14 picks in 1968), earning him first-team All-ACC and Walter Camp All-American honors, along with the coveted Jack Tatum award, which is given to the nation's best defensive back."

Chiefshrink 08-26-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13694575)
I think Veach tried to duplicate what Dorsey did with S. Smith...Amerson was pretty highly touted coming out of college. The only problem was he didn't have a contingency in place in case his reclamation project didn't work out...so on to Scandrick.

It was a one year deal...so not terrible on that end. They kicked the tires...and the whole "change of scenery" tip. I'm sure they're working the upcoming cuts pretty hard...

"In 2011, Amerson recorded 13 interceptions, which tied for second-most in NCAA history (Al Worley from Washington set the record with 14 picks in 1968), earning him first-team All-ACC and Walter Camp All-American honors, along with the coveted Jack Tatum award, which is given to the nation's best defensive back."

Well so far he has just been a great college player and another to bite the dust in the NFL.

RealSNR 08-26-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13694548)
You are correct Reid calls the shots, period.

milkman isn't wrong. You smear this diarrhea all the ****ing time.

It's absolute bullshit that Reid is in charge of personnel. It's something you made up for some reason, and because you're an arrogant dickbrain, you trumpet it every chance you get.

OKchiefs 08-26-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13694564)
Jesus, even your attempts at insults are putrid, weak, and ****ing moronic.

I hope to hell you have somebody to wipe your ass for you, otherwise your shit goes everywhere you go.

I think I've found the new Dane.

jaa1025 08-26-2018 10:46 PM

I don't think he is clueless. I think he took the realistic position that he cant fix the entire defense in one off season.

Fuller via trade looks like an absolute steal.
Amerson looks like a cheap gamble that isn't going to pay off but he will be better than the crap that was thrown out there last year.
Scandrick is also a cheap depth move that would have been CB #2 on the Chiefs last year.
I like the two rookie CBs but they aren't ready yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs concentrate heavily on the secondary next year as well as the lines. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs trade for secondary either in the next few weeks.

kccrow 08-27-2018 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13694548)
You are correct Reid calls the shots, period.

I think you are misinterpreting slightly. I never said Reid "calls the shots." Every GM and coach have a relationship where they assess the team together and determine the needs going forward. Reid has traditionally been a "build-the-trenches" type of coach/GM, having spent a lot of resources on his fronts in Philly and even now in KC. Brett Veach was part of that. When it comes to making a decision over what is best for the team in terms of rebuilding the defense, Reid is going to have a tendency to want the trenches first and Veach, when given the choice amongst who he believes are equivalent talents, is going to choose given the positional wants of his coach. Ultimately, Veach will decide the who and the when but is influenced by his coach's needs. This is unlike saying Reid said to draft Speaks or pick up Amerson in free agency and Veach did it, which to me would be Reid calling the shots.

TEX 08-27-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13694564)
Jesus, even your attempts at insults are putrid, weak, and ****ing moronic.

I hope to hell you have somebody to wipe your ass for you, otherwise your shit goes everywhere you go.

ROFL

TEX 08-27-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13694714)
I think you are misinterpreting slightly. I never said Reid "calls the shots." Every GM and coach have a relationship where they assess the team together and determine the needs going forward. Reid has traditionally been a "build-the-trenches" type of coach/GM, having spent a lot of resources on his fronts in Philly and even now in KC. Brett Veach was part of that. When it comes to making a decision over what is best for the team in terms of rebuilding the defense, Reid is going to have a tendency to want the trenches first and Veach, when given the choice amongst who he believes are equivalent talents, is going to choose given the positional wants of his coach. Ultimately, Veach will decide the who and the when but is influenced by his coach's needs. This is unlike saying Reid said to draft Speaks or pick up Amerson in free agency and Veach did it, which to me would be Reid calling the shots.

That's one of the big issues I have with Reid. Ever since he got to KC he has been working on the OL, and it's still not very good. LG has literally been a revolving door, Center is weak and the LT proves he can't play when he absolutely has to. They have way too much $$$ invested in the OL for the lack of results they're getting. But, he did have OL issues in Philly as well, so I kind of expected it. It's on me for thinking that it would be different in KC.


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