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chiefzilla1501 12-14-2018 02:42 PM
I don't think Sutton gets fired. I'm being way too optimistic but Reid sounded tentatively supportive of Sutton in the offseason. There's a part of me that thinks they let Sutton stay on as lame duck until they get personnel to change to a 4-3. I think Reid gets Sutton and Emmett Thomas to retire.

chiefzilla1501 12-14-2018 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13962630)
What changed?

He no longer has Justin Houston and Eric Berry being the best players in the league at their positions nor does he have a unique talent like Sean Smith that uniquely fits his scheme.

Basically without perfect personnel Sutton sucks. But it's a bad thread because Reid won't fire him until they have a losing season.
Sutton was exposed last year when his DBs got flagged on every play for playing too aggressive. It was the rules changes that ruined Sutton, not lack of talent. He's fielded good defenses before with garbage when you consider how often our superstars couldn't stay on the field.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-14-2018 03:09 PM
Berry seemed to make a difference during the 1st half. The 2nd half he didn't play and look what happened.

OKchiefs 12-14-2018 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13962696)
Berry seemed to make a difference during the 1st half. The 2nd half he didn't play and look what happened.
Your entire defense shouldn't hinge on one player.

TwistedChief 12-14-2018 03:18 PM
Eric Berry appeared to be interviewing for the position last night.

chinaski 12-14-2018 03:27 PM
Anybody but Sutton #FireBobSutton

"Bend don't break" is and always was a major red flag. WTF is up with that bullshit? Our DC tells the players to "Bend don't break".

**** That

**** THAT

I want our DC to tell our guys "GO KILL THAT MOTHER EFFER"

Horse Shit.

MahiMike 12-14-2018 03:34 PM
One thing I noticed last night, there's no pre snap movement or confusion by our defense. Just so basic. Our offense is miles ahead of other teams with this concept. Why can't our defense do the same. The Ravens confused the hell out of Pat.

Discuss Thrower 12-14-2018 03:34 PM
Who is or isn't the defensive coordinator is pretty irrelevant when the front office has been comically inept at identifying talent coming out of college over the last half decade.

Chiefnj2 12-14-2018 04:07 PM
Stephen A Smith was talking about this and he suggested Bum Phillips.

Chief Roundup 12-14-2018 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13962765)
Who is or isn't the defensive coordinator is pretty irrelevant when the front office has been comically inept at identifying talent coming out of college over the last half decade.
Patrick Mahomes
Kareem Hunt
Chris Jones
Tyreek Hill
Marcus Peters
Mitch Morse
Steven Nelson
Dee Ford
Zach Fulton
LDT
Eric Fisher
Travis Kelce

That list is not comically inept.
Your reaction and overstatement is very comical though.

ILChief 12-14-2018 04:22 PM
Todd Bowles when he’s canned
Sean McDermott if he’s canned
Vance Joseph if he's canned
Chuck Pagano
Gregg Williams if he doesn’t the Browns job
Mike Pettine if Green Bay cleans house
Teryl Austin
Ray Horton

Discuss Thrower 12-14-2018 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13962836)
Patrick Mahomes
Kareem Hunt
Chris Jones
Tyreek Hill
Marcus Peters
Mitch Morse
Steven Nelson
Dee Ford
Zach Fulton
LDT
Eric Fisher
Travis Kelce

That list is not comically inept.
Your reaction and overstatement is very comical though.

Notice commonality on all but three of those names on that list?

Thanks for proving the point though and it's obvious me forgetting to put the word "defensive" in front of talent didn't really hinder your understanding of it.

chiefzilla1501 12-14-2018 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13962848)
Todd Bowles when he’s canned
Sean McDermott if he’s canned
Vance Joseph if he's canned
Chuck Pagano
Gregg Williams if he doesn’t the Browns job
Mike Pettine if Green Bay cleans house
Teryl Austin
Ray Horton
A few ughs in there. I don't want retreads. I don't want a tree candidate unless they're running a defense that is built for the new league rules. For me... Pettine is more of the same. Williams and McDermott are WAY too dependent on their secondary. If people hate us not blitzing, McDermott will drive everybodh crazy.

OKchiefs 12-14-2018 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13962836)
Patrick Mahomes
Kareem Hunt
Chris Jones
Tyreek Hill
Marcus Peters
Mitch Morse
Steven Nelson
Dee Ford
Zach Fulton
LDT
Eric Fisher
Travis Kelce

That list is not comically inept.
Your reaction and overstatement is very comical though.
How much of that list is defense?

Chris Jones is awesome

Nelson is an average CB at best.

Peters is overrated and no longer with the team

BRILLIANT defensive scouting by Dorsey/Veach!!!

eDave 12-14-2018 05:24 PM
Bob Sutton is fine. It's just one game. Damn fairies.


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