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Kiimo 04-26-2019 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mahomer (Post 14232634)
Take D.K. Metcalf please. He will be this team's version of Calvin Johnson. Metcalf can only run a few routes but so did CJ. We need speed and he has speed AND power.

To truck down anyone that gets in his way and to go up and snatch anything that is higher than the DBs can get to.
Him or Parris and if you have to trade up and abandon corner, so be it.

WR is our #1 priority right now.

We can roll with what we have in the secondary much more than wide receiver.

Chris Meck 04-26-2019 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 14232716)
My apologies if already mentioned - but a LOT of our offense's success relies upon pre-snap motion with Tyreek (the threat of the jet sweep, etc.).

While Mahomes is everything we could ever want and more - losing Tyreek is a huge blow to our offense (especially with Watkins' inability to stay on the field).

I know tyreeks dont grow on trees, but we need something semi-close to maintain stability in what Andy likes to accomplish with the offense
this is true, but lots of teams run those types of plays without Tyreek. What you need for that threat is real speed; and all of the guys on Pug's list fit that bill, especially the sub 4.4. guys.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 10:37 AM
I believe Metcalf can learn routes. If he can learn routes he’s Calvin Johnson. If not he’s Dwayne Bowe

htismaqe 04-26-2019 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14232730)
I believe Metcalf can learn routes. If he can learn routes he’s Calvin Johnson. If not he’s Dwayne Bowe
Let us not forget that Dwayne Bowe did have 150 catches, 2000 yards, and 12 TDs in his first 2 seasons.

If Metcalf can be that, draft him NOW.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 10:39 AM
What are your thoughts on Hakeem Butler?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14232735)
Let us not forget that Dwayne Bowe did have 150 catches, 2000 yards, and 12 TDs in his first 2 seasons.

If Metcalf can be that, draft him NOW.
The problem is that we would have to trade up and almost certainly give up our other second round pick

carcosa 04-26-2019 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14232735)
Let us not forget that Dwayne Bowe did have 150 catches, 2000 yards, and 12 TDs in his first 2 seasons.

If Metcalf can be that, draft him NOW.
And that was with absolute dogshit at QB!!!

Nixhex 04-26-2019 10:43 AM
If we were to draft a WR I think Deebo Samuel is a good choice and Parris Campbell is probably the closest thing to Tyreek we could hope for.

Kiimo 04-26-2019 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14232740)
The problem is that we would have to trade up and almost certainly give up our other second round pick
Fine.

htismaqe 04-26-2019 10:44 AM
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And that was with absolute dogshit at QB!!!
I mean, I know the guy is a punch line now but look at his seasons where he managed to stay healthy. Dude had 72 rec, 1100 yards, and 15 TDs with Matt freaking Cassel at QB.

If we could get Dwayne Bowe right now, imagine how much that would help?

htismaqe 04-26-2019 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nixhex (Post 14232756)
If we were to draft a WR I think Deebo Samuel is a good choice and Parris Campbell is probably the closest thing to Tyreek we could hope for.
Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.

kcclone 04-26-2019 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14232736)
What are your thoughts on Hakeem Butler?

Tricky question.

I like him. He's got good speed for his size, but doesn't have elite speed by any means. He doesn't have to be wide open because he will just body up and make grabs, go over top of DB's, etc.

I'm probably biased though because I'm an ISU fan.

The question is whether someone without elite speed helps Mahomes. It seems like one of the main reasons Tyreek was so lethal, is that he was paired with a guy who has a big arm. Big arm + elite speed worked for us. It allowed us to stretch the field, which helped Kelce, RB's, Sammy, etc.

Butler can stretch the field, but in a different way. The DB might be running step for step with him, but Butler will go up and grab it and there's no way to stop a 6'6" dude like that from snatching it up.

He did run a 4.48 at the combine, so in no way am I saying he's slow. He's just not like Tyreek at all.

The Franchise 04-26-2019 10:46 AM
I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.

The Franchise 04-26-2019 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14232765)
Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14232768)
I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.
I was a minute too late.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-26-2019 10:47 AM
What time is the Frank Clark press conference?


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