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neech 04-26-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14235848)
Wrong! Eagles wanted Hardman and they were the next pick

Like I said we go to the next guy on the board.

St. Patty's Fire 04-26-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14235846)
Guys this defense doesn’t have to be top 10.

With Pat Pete it will be tho

Halfcan 04-26-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14235838)
There’s still work to do, but no.

The way he was decisive in his decisions to move on from certain players and to target other players is quite impressive.

If he makes a trade for PP, I can see this defense being top 10 next year.

Maybe top 5-7

If teams want to **** with us and play “keep away” by running the ball and killing clock, we have some straight up DOGS out there now to stop the run. I’m thinking Daly is going to have this group as one of the better run defenses in football, fairly quickly.

They just need another LB and a top shelf corner to make the defense complete.

This team has a good chance of winning a Super Bowl.

:clap: Running defense has been the Achilles heel of this team for a decade - glad that it ending this year.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-26-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14235800)
He does suck.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Veach end up the greatest GM of all time now that this moron has spoken.

BossChief 04-27-2019 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14235855)
:clap: Running defense has been the Achilles heel of this team for a decade - glad that it ending this year.

Almost every guy they brought in for the front 7 is a really good run defender.

Daly is not only the DL coach, but also the run defense coordinator.

House is a great defensive coach and we’re lucky to have him as a position coach. His unit will get to the ball and make the play.

This run defense is going to be light years better than last year.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 12:24 AM

If Hitchens is back to being the Dallas Hitchens our D is top 10

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 12:29 AM

Tomorrow a TE, CB and a LB need to be taken. Get some good undrafted FA as well! That’s where I would look for O line depth and some WR. Kemp has got to go. Dieter is basically here for life since he’s Mahomes best bud

007 04-27-2019 12:51 AM

I have no ****ing clue because I don't watch college football. I'll just take everyones word for it that it was a good two days. Still **** Tyreek for putting them in the position to use the first 2nd round pick on a WR.

keg in kc 04-27-2019 01:18 AM

I give an F...to anybody who grades a draft while it's going on.

New World Order 04-27-2019 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14235851)
With Pat Pete it will be tho

That elite d line with an island corner on the outside and 2 pro bowl-caliber safeties?

We'd have a top 5 defense for sure with PP.

keg in kc 04-27-2019 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14235881)
I have no ****ing clue because I don't watch college football. I'll just take everyones word for it that it was a good two days. Still **** Tyreek for putting them in the position to use the first 2nd round pick on a WR.

It could be argued that receiver was a need even before that, and perhaps still is. It is not a deep position on the roster, at all, unless one considers unproven, undrafted marginal talent enough, when paired with a number one that missed much of last year, as seems to be the norm for him.

Not to mention we only have one TE of any quality.

Mahomes is amazing, but we need some talent around him. I hope the pendulum hasn't swung too far. Hill was a top-5 receiver trending up before all this. That's most likely impossible to replace. And there was nobody worth a shit behind him. I don't particularly want to be trying to win with defense, not in today's NFL, and that exactly what's going to happen if Kelce or Watkins goes down.

I'm not arguing against any of the moves made, just pointing out that I think we have some holes people don't or didn't recognize. I don't think we can assume the offense is just plug-and-play, that nobody but Pat matters and they'll be awesome no matter what...

Which is why I thought we were likely going receiver day 2 regardless.

smithandrew051 04-27-2019 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14235881)
I have no ****ing clue because I don't watch college football. I'll just take everyones word for it that it was a good two days. Still **** Tyreek for putting them in the position to use the first 2nd round pick on a WR.

I think we needed to draft a WR regardless of the Tyreek situation. We needed a plan for a number 2 receiver, because there’s no way we were going to keep Watkins for the 3rd year of his contract once we paid Hill.

Tyreek being a piece of shit (at worst) and a complete ****ing moron (at best) made wide receiver the top priority.

mcaj22 04-27-2019 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14235814)
DL should be set to GOD mode the next few years and will be coached by a guy that loves setting those guys loose.

Clark-Ogbah-Kpass
Jones-Saunders
Nnadi-Williams-Hamilton
Speaks-Okafor

The linebackers still need some work. Need 2 new ILBs. Or maybe House doesn’t think we need anything and that’s why Veach hasn’t targeted linebackers much.

Wilson-DOD
Ragland-Spaight
Hitchens-Niemann

This CB group needs a top shelf guy to move everyone else down one notch, where they should be much more effective. If Veach can get PP, this group goes from average/below average to top 5-7 in the league.

Ward-Reasor
Breeland-Smith
Fuller-Johnson

This is a nasty safety group with Thornhill opposite Badger. Speed and playmaking ability just oozing from each of them. I genuinely think this will be a top 5 safety tandem in the NFL.

Thornhill-Watts
Badger-Lucas-Sorensen



In short, get us a LEGIT CB1 and MLB and this defense has a chance to be nasty.

I wouldn’t be surprised if these are the starting LBers game one:

DOD
Hitchens
Niemann.

Why do you think Speaks starts over Okafor/Ogbah?

I personally think all the reinforcements at DE this offseason mean Kpass and Speaks are sunk costs but maybe theres something in Speaks I am missing.

Red Dawg 04-27-2019 06:31 AM

Veach did a great job. Solid picks and positions we needed. Veach may have turned the corner.

Sassy Squatch 04-27-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14235800)
He does suck.

This man needs an ice cream sammich.


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