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chiefzilla1501 06-06-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14296541)
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Comparing that to you Mahomes doing in in the NFL against the Pats (2x), Ravens, and Chargers (2x) is completely different.

Have we seen Lawrence under consistent pressure and facing adversity? No.

I’ve already said he was a great QB prospect. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some of you to get.

How many college qbs do? It's a system built around lots of poor competition often capped with a boring bowl game. Most qbs are out of playoff contention by the end of the first month. Do you really think Eli showed his ability to work under pressure? Did Andrew luck really have signature big games? Of course we'll need a larger sample size, but when you're talking "can't miss" qb prospects, you can't wait for the absolute flawless qb.

This reminds me of the Parcells rules. The reason it's failed miserably the past decade. If you put too many rules in place you stop trusting your eyes. Lawrence has popped off the page in ways guys like Haskins and soon to be Tua haven't. These guys also had outstanding supporting casts.

Chief Roundup 06-06-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14296433)
Great minds, staylor

Simple ones too.

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Bowser 06-06-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14296584)
Simple ones too.

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Apologies for annoying you, esteemed college QB whisperer.

Bowser 06-06-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14296553)
He hasn't lost in 52 straight games....going back to HS. Jesus...that's insane.

That's...….I don't know the word for that.

chiefzilla1501 06-06-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14296569)
He's as good of a prospect as any but he's proven nothing. Watson did the same shit at Clemson and he's not a generational talent.

Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.

Deberg_1990 06-06-2019 11:23 AM

Chiefs get Miami’s 1st overall pick, next years 2nd and 2021s 2nd + Devonte Parker

Dolphins get Mahomes.

Chief Roundup 06-06-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14296590)
Apologies for annoying you, esteemed college QB whisperer.

huh?

Have you never heard that line before?
Where someone says "Great minds think alike." and another person says "so do simple ones".

No slit meant. Just a funny line.

TEX 06-06-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14296606)
Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.

I see that you have your narrative. That means you're not willing to accept other points of view without bias. It's always the same with you. You really should just post and then debate / argue with yourself. It will save all of us a lot of time. :shrug:

notorious 06-06-2019 11:32 AM

Ken Dorsey.

staylor26 06-06-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14296582)
How many college qbs do? It's a system built around lots of poor competition often capped with a boring bowl game. Most qbs are out of playoff contention by the end of the first month. Do you really think Eli showed his ability to work under pressure? Did Andrew luck really have signature big games? Of course we'll need a larger sample size, but when you're talking "can't miss" qb prospects, you can't wait for the absolute flawless qb.

This reminds me of the Parcells rules. The reason it's failed miserably the past decade. If you put too many rules in place you stop trusting your eyes. Lawrence has popped off the page in ways guys like Haskins and soon to be Tua haven't. These guys also had outstanding supporting casts.

Dude, you still don’t get it. I said he’s a great QB prospect. He should and will be the #1 pick in 2021. Why do you continue to act like I’m saying he’s not good or he’s going to fail? How many times do I have to say this before it gets through your head?

And no, most cfb QB’s deal with more pressure and adversity with less talent than he did last year. This isn’t even debatable.

Look at Mahomes vs. LSU. That game told me more about Mahomes than any of the rest. It was by far his most impressive despite it being a blowout loss and not his best game statistically by any means.

I was fully on board with him despite not seeing that game until after we drafted him. I didn’t watch any of his sophomore tape so I had no idea it existed. If I watched it before the draft, I would’ve been pounding the table that much harder.

staylor26 06-06-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14296584)
Simple ones too.

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LMAO @ the irony of you calling anybody simple minded.

****ing idiot.

Luke Atamadong 06-06-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14296606)
Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.

Anyone that isn't blind can see Lawrence is a MUCH better NFL prospect. I mean c'mon!

chiefzilla1501 06-06-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14296643)
I see that you have your narrative. That means you're not willing to accept other points of view without bias. It's always the same with you. You really should just post and then debate / argue with yourself. It will save all of us a lot of time. :shrug:

I'm confused about what my narrative is

staylor26 06-06-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke Atamadong (Post 14296711)
Anyone that isn't blind can see Lawrence is a MUCH better NFL prospect. I mean c'mon!

And literally nobody in this thread said he wasn’t the better prospect.

Seriously, do some of you lack even elementary school level reading comprehension?

Great Expectations 06-06-2019 12:22 PM

Anyone comparing Watson to Lawrence hasn’t watched them play. They are completely different QB’s. The only thing they have in common is that they both play(ed) for Clemson.

It is like comparing Jamal Charles to Christian Okoye because Chiefs


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