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Mecca 07-12-2019 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344721)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fails to mention that Espinal ALSO lost custody, was investigated, admitted on tape that “he gets whoopeed,” admitted in text “I did it. I hurt our son.” Worst piece to-date for the <a href="https://twitter.com/KCStar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCStar</a>. I’m actually stunned.</p>&mdash; Mind Rhino (@mind_rhino) <a href="https://twitter.com/mind_rhino/status/1149678229596319749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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As they continue to do what created this problem in the first place, use the information they want to use to shape the narrative to fit a news story they want to tell.

siberian khatru 07-12-2019 07:57 AM

Guys, editorials are unsigned because they represent the institutional opinion of the newspaper, through the collective efforts of the editorial board: https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/a...127478714.html. One member of the board (NOT any reporter, let alone Brooke Pryor) wrote the piece but with the input of the other members. That also likely included the publisher. The board might consult reporters on facts or background, but reporters otherwise have no say in writing the editorials.

OnTheWarpath15 07-12-2019 07:57 AM

Need DJ or one of the other resident Legal Eagles to respond:

Are there other possible reasons for a prosecutor to offer a plea bargain OTHER than because they don't have a terribly strong case?

I mean, if his guilt is so obvious, why are they offering him anything?

Sincerely,

Legal Dummy

OnTheWarpath15 07-12-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14344722)
Yea but the whole he belittles her by calling her "bro" is a complete and total made up crock of shit.

Agreed.

Marcellus 07-12-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344709)
Hill didn't enter a plea that maintained his innocence. He entered a guilty plea.

I understand that CP will continue to look for ways around this, because we want to feel better about cheering for him, but those are facts. He admitted that he abused her.

Every post you make on the topic makes you look worse. Just stop digging.

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14344728)
Guys, editorials are unsigned because they represent the institutional opinion of the newspaper, through the collective efforts of the editorial board: https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/a...127478714.html. One member of the board (NOT any reporter, let alone Brooke Pryor) wrote the piece but with the input of the other members. That also likely included the publisher. The board might consult reporters on facts or background, but reporters otherwise have no say in writing the editorials.

That's great, buddy.

Heads need to roll.

Mecca 07-12-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14344731)
Every post you make on the topic makes you look worse. Just stop digging.

You know what he's doing.....Duncan was smart enough to admit he ****ed up apologize and tip the **** out...this one not so much.

mr. tegu 07-12-2019 08:02 AM

This entire thing with the audio started to make him look more guilty regarding the more recent allegations. This is important because the full audio doesn’t make him look as bad with regards to that situation as they initially tried to make him look.

So now, they are going back to the 2014 incident as a last effort but that has already been gone over and resolved. It’s no longer relevant and certainly has nothing to do with any need to punish him. The majority of people, including the media, assumed the worst about that 2014 situation yet he still was able to move past it and be cheered for and supported as a player without contempt. Bringing it back up now is nothing but people pushing an agenda and grasping for something else since the recent allegations appear to have fallen through.

Zap Rowsdower 07-12-2019 08:02 AM

The paper isn't making much money. They want you to be outraged and click on their links.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-12-2019 08:02 AM

I got a QUICK response from Berg.

A quick snippet of my email:
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You should be ashamed of your staff’s overall approach to this issue, and I will continue to advocate for the slow death of your production among other fans in the area until something is done to show accountability for these mistakes.
The response:
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I understand your position and appreciate the feedback. That being said, I fully support all of our journalists and the tough work and topics that have to tackle everyday. Again, I respect your position and hope you will give us another shot in the future.

Eleazar 07-12-2019 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 14344729)
Need DJ or one of the other resident Legal Eagles to respond:

Are there other possible reasons for a prosecutor to offer a plea bargain OTHER than because they don't have a terribly strong case?

I mean, if his guilt is so obvious, why are they offering him anything?

Sincerely,

Legal Dummy

Taking a case to trial is expensive and time-consuming. Most every person who is truly guilty pleads out. The state doesn't have the resources to go through the motions of a full trial for everything, and when the guilty party is willing to make a deal to resolve the matter, it's unnecessary.

Mecca 07-12-2019 08:04 AM

Lets not mention how many people who aren't guilty plead out for a good deal because of the sad fact that many innocent people go to jail everyday.

Eleazar 07-12-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344744)
Lets not mention how many people who aren't guilty plead out for a good deal because of the sad fact that many innocent people go to jail everyday.

He could have decided not to contest the charges while maintaining his innocence. He didn't do that. He admitted guilt.

mr. tegu 07-12-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 14344646)
I’m starting to get nervous that this is going to blow up into such huge ordeal, that we won’t see Tyreek in a Chiefs uniform for more than this year. Instead of realizing the error of their ways, the media seems to be digging in their heels. I just hope it doesn’t become such a fight that the Chiefs and Hill part ways just to make it all stop. It’s all such a huge **** storm.


Hill is not going to be punished for the 2014 incident. It’s over and done with and won’t come into play despite the continued assault on Hill from the media. So we are back to just the recent stuff, which really isn’t much, hence the reason they are bringing up the 2014 stuff again. They are trying to justify their overall bad reporting.

Marcellus 07-12-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14344741)
Taking a case to trial is expensive and time-consuming. Most every person who is truly guilty pleads out. The state doesn't have the resources to go through the motions of a full trial for everything, and when the guilty party is willing to make a deal to resolve the matter, it's unnecessary.

It could also be very simply that in a he said vs she said scenario he didn't want to take the risk of a trial and it go against him when a pregnant woman is on the stand crying.

It could also be that the DA put a deal in place that allows things to work out in the long run by clearing Hill's record if there are no other issues because they didn't feel like what happened was so egregious.


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