Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218521)

The 2019 Texans had a puncher's chance of winning the whole thing, IMO.

And if Watson were as good as his hype train says he is, they would have. Or at least they wouldn't have managed to yack up that 24 point lead.

At some point Watson has to take some ownership of the fact that at 24-7, the Texans got 8 more drives and put up a whopping 7 points. That's WITH Hopkins on the field. And a healthy Fuller and Kenny Stills. Carlos Hyde is mediocre but was effective for them last season and Duke Johnson is an excellent receiving back who he also had available. Tunsil didn't have his big contract yet so he was getting one of the best pass-blocking LTs in the business to cover his blind side.

He had a LOT going for him in that game and failed. Now this season's a different creature because of the off-season personnel decisions and some injuries, but last season's Texans team was no push-over.

Give Mahomes that same roster and the Texans win a championship. There's little doubt of it in my mind. Even w/ BoB at HC (because again, I think the guys a solid HC, if a shitty GM).

Watson's fortunate that BoB is taking these bullets because Deshaun deserves a few of 'em in his own right.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15218058)

Cowherd sucked the Texans dick over that trade.

“They have to protect Watson, so this trade is great. What were they going to get with those picks anyway? Picks are a crapshoot, Tunsil is guaranteed. Now they have a group core set for a decade!”

Shit like that made me turn him off. ****ing reeruned.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218432)

He might be worse.

Grigson's biggest crime was always failing to do enough to surround his star quarterback.

BoB actively sabotages his.

The work BoB has done to wreck that roster is some of the worst I've ever seen. Donald Sterling didn't blow things up this badly. And there's just no clear path forward for them either.

I mean think about this - Will Fuller is a pending FA. They're gonna have to pay that guy $10-12 million/season or watch their WR corps get even worse. And they'll have to cut Cooks (because lord knows they can't pay him $12 million next season and he has zero dead cap money). Randall Cobb has a $12 million cap hit for them next season that they can't get out of. Randall Cobb!!

And they don't have a 1st or 2nd rounder. I mean there's nothing that's going to save that team. They may win 4-5 this year in the softer part of their schedule but that team has a 6 win ceiling for the foreseeable future.

They're a complete mess.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15217985)

It's funny how fast life comes at you. There was a point 9 months ago where it looked like O'Brien had his team dominating, a couple good quarters away from guaranteeing an AFC championship game in Houston. Facing a Titans team they had already beat when they both played at full strength. Legit chance at a Super Bowl.

Now they're 0-4, team looks like a dismantled train wreck with a bottom 5 offense and defense, and they've traded away their top draft picks.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15221350)

Making stupid trades. Injuries.

CP has helped me to understand that both are not helpful.