Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15222515)

When they're in that 7 or 8 DB set, it's really hard to stretch the field horizontally.

They're basically leaving the middle of the field wide open and shutting everything else down.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15222522)

We've also seen him shut down for entire halves vs. BB defenses and make catastrophically bad mistakes that have taken points off the board and created huge turnovers.

What you saw is Mahomes maturation process. When he was bad, he was LESS bad. That's hugely important against teams that typically don't beat themselves. You have to hang around long enough for them to slip up without cutting your own throat in the process.

Earlier in Pats career, maybe he forces a throw or two that creates a big momentum swing and a hill we have to climb in the 2nd half. It's happened on a couple of occasions in the PM vs. BB matchup.

Today Mahomes simply didn't make the key mistake, prodded for soft spots and eventually found enough to win a game fairly easily.

We're spending an awful lot of time focusing on the negatives here when there's a clear positive to take away from how Mahomes approached this game vs. how he's approached Patriot games in the past. This was another step forward in his march to unassailable GOAT status.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15222540)

Honestly he probably made a couple of those mistakes in the first half, but McCourty dropped an INT and they blew the fumble/INT/sack dead.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15222522)

We've also seen him shut down for entire halves vs. BB defenses and make catastrophically bad mistakes that have taken points off the board and created huge turnovers.

What you saw is Mahomes maturation process. When he was bad, he was LESS bad. That's hugely important against teams that typically don't beat themselves. You have to hang around long enough for them to slip up without cutting your own throat in the process.

Earlier in Pats career, maybe he forces a throw or two that creates a big momentum swing and a hill we have to climb in the 2nd half. It's happened on a couple of occasions in the PM vs. BB matchup.

Today Mahomes simply didn't make the key mistake, prodded for soft spots and eventually found enough to win a game fairly easily.

We're spending an awful lot of time focusing on the negatives here when there's a clear positive to take away from how Mahomes approached this game vs. how he's approached Patriot games in the past. This was another step forward in his march to unassailable GOAT status.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15222563)

Mahomes needs to work on his deep ball. Russ is by far the best deep ball thrower in the league

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15222193)

Romo touched on this, but they had an interesting approach that looked like it gave Mahomes a bit of trouble at times.



They only had 3 DL, and their 2 DE's rushed up the field and held the sides of the pocket, creating a "box" around Mahomes to prevent him from rolling/escaping/doing his magic tricks. They then kept everyone else in coverage in his line of sight to limit his windows and throwing lanes.



The plus was he had lots of time in the pocket, the minus was he had no where to go to help his WR's get open via scrambling, reducing his throwing lanes/windows.



Thankfully our WR corps is very fast and can get open, but again, with reduced windows, it made it harder on Mahomes.



I would not be surprised if we saw this set up again this season a few times.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15222547)

Eh, I don't blame him for the fumble/int/sack. That was just typical weird shit that happens in a scrum.

I'm not sure what the McCourty drop was. He almost seemed to get stuck in the middle and not know exactly where he was throwing the football.

It wasn't that 'hero ball' mistake he made as a pup or just whiffing on the dropping LBer. It just looked to me like an execution error rather than a processing problem or being too gung ho/sped up.

Dunno - that one was odd.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15222567)

dude.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15222255)

Yeah the false narratives this morning have been weird.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15222513)

But we’ve seen Mahomes tear apart better Belichick defenses than this. And he consistently makes better decisions and throws with more accuracy than he did last night.

Belichick deserves credit, but they should have hung more points on the board.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15222558)

It was the classic BB approach of "take away your opponent's best weapon."

In this game, that was our passing game.

They wanted us to run, because it slows the game down, eats clock, and removed "splash plays" by taking away Patrick's ability to create new windows to throw through.

On Offense, they wanted to run and eat clock as well, to keep him on the sideline.

It almost worked, and we still won by 16, because we are a complete team. Huge punts from Townsend, big plays when we needed them on offense, and ball-hawk secondary combined with timely sacks on throwing downs from the defense.

It can't all be on the offense every game.

We'll take these learnings and apply them to future games.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15222209)

Have to get Mahomes under center and beat them with the running game when they do that.