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Jewish Rabbi 01-11-2021 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15467857)
**** him. His arrogance and my way or the highway cost us years of development. Todd Haley is now the offensive coordinator of a mediocre high school football team.

Veach gets credit for Mahomes.
What does Todd Haley have to do with anything?

htismaqe 01-11-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15468827)
He did choose them. Dorsey had final say on all draft picks. Did Veach and Reid push for those picks? I'm sure they did but Dorsey had final say.

If you want to play that game Dorsey was reportedly the scout that convinced Packers to choose Rodgers but end of day Packers GM at the time made the pick.
Dorsey didn't have final say, though. That's why they agreed to part ways. He wanted final say but didn't have it. It's pretty well known, actually.

-King- 01-11-2021 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15468651)
Dorsey ****ing passed on Bradley Chubb and instead took a ****ing corner, which was one of the dumbest draft decisions of the past decade.

Myles Garrett and Bradley Chubb could have owned the AFC but Dorsey was too shortsighted to see it.
Are we supposed to act like Denzel Ward isn't a good player or something?

TLO 01-11-2021 01:55 PM
Next up: The Carl Peterson appreciation thread!

PAChiefsGuy 01-11-2021 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15468948)
Dorsey didn't have final say, though. That's why they agreed to part ways. He wanted final say but didn't have it. It's pretty well known, actually.
That is such bullshit Reid repeatedly said during Dorseys tenure here that Dorsey had final say on draft picks and personnel moves. This was actually made clear Reod would not have GM control when he signed here bexause it was a disaster when he did it in Philly.

During their interview for an extension obviously something happened and the two decided to part ways but what happened is anyone's guess.

htismaqe 01-11-2021 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15469028)
That is such bullshit Reid repeatedly said during Dorseys tenure here that Dorsey had final say on draft picks and personnel moves. This was actually made clear Reod would not have GM control when he signed here bexause it was a disaster when he did it in Philly.

During their interview for an extension obviously something happened and the two decided to part ways but what happened is anyone's guess.
Something did happen - Dorsey wanted more autonomy. It's ****ing documented, go Google it. :facepalm:

saphojunkie 01-11-2021 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15467910)
He was the best we had.

Until Veach. Then suddenly we see all of his deficiencies. Veach isn't perfect either *Cough* Right Guard *Cough*

He deserves a lot of credit for un****ing the **** that Scott Franchise Killer Pioli left in ruins.
Uh-oh, you might have Covid-19. Better go see Dr. Laurent Duverney-Tardif, who opted out.

Brody Wa 01-11-2021 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15467955)
You'll get alot of hate on here because this is now homer planet but Dorsey was arguably the best GM weve ever had til Veach came along and had the benefit of filling in the gaps even though his first draft was average at best.
Agreed. Both Peterson and Pioli where utter douchebags. I still recall all of the water talk between negotiations with offensive lineman John Tait and Carl and how Peterson swore profusely at Tait while knowing he was a Mormon.

staylor26 01-11-2021 06:19 PM
Two things can be true:

1. Dorsey is a damn good scout with an eye for talent.

2. Dorsey has warts that have gotten him fired twice now.

Also,

1. Dorsey played a role in Mahomes becoming a Chief and deserves some credit.

2. Veach was THE guy pounding the table for Mahomes and Reid was probably the guy he had to sell most of all.

htismaqe 01-11-2021 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody Wa (Post 15469714)
Agreed. Both Peterson and Pioli where utter douchebags. I still recall all of the water talk between negotiations with offensive lineman John Tait and Carl and how Peterson swore profusely at Tait while knowing he was a Mormon.
Sit the **** down and shut the **** up!

Dunerdr 01-12-2021 09:23 AM
This is my favorite argument of all time. Every where in the world it says Mahomes was drafted by Dorsey... EXCEPT in the mind of homer chiefs fans.

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2021 12:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lions?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Lions</a> are expected to add former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> GM John Dorsey as a senior personnel executive, per sources. One of the NFL’s best evaluators adds experience to the front office of first-time GM Brad Holmes.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1353410954541805569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

srvy 01-24-2021 12:52 PM
This is a smart move. Maybe the Lions will finally become credible.

scho63 01-24-2021 02:57 PM
Dorsey was a lot better than most people give him credit for. Far from perfect but no GM ever is.


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