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Pants 02-25-2021 10:55 AM
This is craziest ****ing off season ever.

ToxSocks 02-25-2021 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563661)
From PFT

The article looks closely at the tension between Wilson and the coaching staff regarding Wilson’s desire to essentially be the offense, like Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That motivation drove the #LetRussCook phenomenon early in the season. But coach Pete Carroll freaked out after a turnover-fest against the Bills (four from Wilson) and another subpar performance against the Rams (three more Wilson turnovers).

After those seven turnovers from Wilson in two games, the Seahawks faced a short-week challenge against a Cardinals team that had a two-game winning streak against Seattle, and that was riding a wave of euphoria after the Hail Murray win over the Bills.

Here’s what happened next, via the story in TheAthletic.com: “Before the Thursday night game against Arizona, Wilson met with his coaches. For some time, Wilson has sought — even pushed — for influence within the organization regarding scheme and personnel. In the meeting, he outlined his own ideas for how to fix the offense. His suggestions were dismissed, multiple sources told The Athletic — another reminder to Wilson that the Seahawks did not see him the same way he saw himself, as a player who had earned greater control over his situation, his future, his legacy. He stormed out of the room.”
So basically Wilson and Watson are jealous of Mahomes. They see the fun and success he's having and the legacy he's building and think they can achieve the same success if they just had a different team/coaching staff.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:03 AM
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.

Pants 02-25-2021 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?
Derek Carr? Tua? Whoever they end up trading with will probably swap QBs.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563733)
Derek Carr? Tua? Whoever they end up trading with will probably swap QBs.
Well anything is possible. Tua on the Seahawks in that division seems like he would be the 4th best QB. Even Carr but at least he's seasoned.

The Franchise 02-25-2021 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.
Well if they trade with the Jets, they can get the #2 pick and draft one.

staylor26 02-25-2021 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563730)
Highly doubt Wilson will be traded. Who is going to be their QB for this upcoming season?

Things will be patched up between everyone and they will involve Wilson a bit more. He seems to always be making plays for that team.
Exactly.

That team was in win now mode when they traded 2 1st round picks for a safety. They have Metcalf on a rookie deal. They aren’t going to turnaround and start over at QB right now.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2021 11:10 AM
Idk what’s gonna happen but I’m not happy about the possibility of the AFC getting even more quality QB play. The balance is already way off in favor of the AFC.

Pants 02-25-2021 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15563734)
Well anything is possible. Tua on the Seahawks in that division seems like he would be the 4th best QB. Even Carr but at least he's seasoned.
Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.

RunKC 02-25-2021 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15563737)
Exactly.

That team was in win now mode when they traded 2 1st round picks for a safety. They have Metcalf on a rookie deal. They aren’t going to turnaround and start over at QB right now.
It’s a message that had to be sent. The guy had to deal with a 1990’s offense, horrible drafting and absolutely no input? Not to mention the Seahawks sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen (per Chris Simms there were trade talks with CLE).

These guys see the news. They see Patrick getting texts from his GM asking what they’d like in the draft. They see the innovation. They also see Tom Brady leaving a horrible micro managed situation and going to an offensive minded team that let him have input to bring in Gronk, Brown and Fournette.

Can’t say I blame Russ one bit for wanting that

-King- 02-25-2021 11:14 AM
I don't think Russell will be traded but if he doesn't get traded, I see a "Pete Carroll and the Seattle seahawks have agreed to mutually part ways" coming in the next couple years.

ToxSocks 02-25-2021 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563740)
Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.
Wilson is chasing a legacy, so unless Carroll changes the offense to suit what Wilson thinks will help his legacy he's gonna dip. It may not be this season, but he's talking waaaay too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

And with Carroll seemingly doubling down on his run first offense it seems like Wilson leaving to stat chase is an inevitability.

staylor26 02-25-2021 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15563742)
It’s a message that had to be sent. The guy had to deal with a 1990’s offense, horrible drafting and absolutely no input? Not to mention the Seahawks sniffing around Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen (per Chris Simms there were trade talks with CLE).

These guys see the news. They see Patrick getting texts from his GM asking what they’d like in the draft. They see the innovation. They also see Tom Brady leaving a horrible micro managed situation and going to an offensive minded team that let him have input to bring in Gronk, Brown and Fournette.

Can’t say I blame Russ one bit for wanting that
I absolutely don’t blame Wilson, and I totally see where he’s coming from. I just don’t think a trade is likely.

Eureka 02-25-2021 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15563740)
Well, yeah, nobody is arguing that it's good for Seattle to trade Russ. They need to keep him if at all possible.

I'm talking from the point of view where they have no choice but to trade.
Def not good for Seattle. Another way to look at it. If you were a newly hired Coach for Seattle what would you prefer to have.

Russell Wilson as your starting QB

or

Sam Darnold, 2nd overall pick, +2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 1st rd pick

Derek Carr, 17th overall pick, and 2022 1st round pick

Tua, 3rd overall pick, +2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 1st rd pick

Whatever the Saints have to offer

Patriots next 3 1st rd picks and 2 2nd round picks

Or possibly players + picks from a dark horse team that wants Wilson.

GoForIt 02-25-2021 11:32 AM
Wilson said one of his choices would be the Jets. That makes both Watson and now Wilson that have named the Jets as a preferred destination. Selah must be one heck of a players coach.


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