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ChiefsCountry 12-02-2021 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15986639)
That’s a super small minority of people that watch regular season baseball games on TV.

WTF are YOU talking about with “tons of people”?

Matlock reruns get higher TV ratings than regular season baseball games.
Baseball is the highest rated tv primetime program in the local markets.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15986089)
I used to be a fan, but I'm tired of seeing big market teams in the WS every yar. Sure enough, teams like the 2014-5 Royals strike gold every blue moon, but LA, Atlanta, and the Yankees seem to get more than their fair share due to their payrolls. Until MLB establishes revenue sharing and a salary cap, it's just going to continue. Couple that with the average KC fan not being able to see a single game of the Royals without going to the ballpark or paying an arm and a leg for cable extra chanels --I say screw that.
This 100%. Big market pundits all over twitter right now want to shit in our mouths and call it a sundae. Small market fans should shut up and be happy for whatever scraps the big markets give us.

If George Brett was a Royal today we'd never be able to keep him past his rookie deal. If the NFL was run like MLB, the Chiefs would never be able to keep Mahomes. It absolutely sucks for the fans when this happens, and would seriously drop interest in the NFL in smaller markets.

Baseball needs more revenue sharing, a cap, and the floor that goes along with it to keep cheap owners like David Glass, and Nutting in Pittsburgh from gaming the system.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2021 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15986670)
Baseball is the highest rated tv primetime program in the local markets.
That’s factually incorrect… not even close.

ChiefsCountry 12-02-2021 02:44 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ld-series.html
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The Pros and Cons of Local Broadcasting
Fox, ESPN, CBS and NBC own the national broadcasting rights for N.F.L. games, giving wide exposure to the league’s best teams and stars. Baseball’s broadcasting model is much different. Individual teams sell exclusive rights for nearly all of their games to either regional branches of these national networks or to local stations.

Although baseball’s national TV ratings lag far behind those of other top sports, these local broadcasts are very popular.

According to Nielsen ratings:

In 2019, 12 of the 29 United States-based major league teams were the most popular prime-time broadcast in their market.

An additional seven teams ranked in the top three in prime time.

On cable, 24 major league teams ranked first in their market in prime time.

M.L.B. ranked first over all on cable in every major league market in the United States except Miami.

Again, baseball is relying on its high volume of games (one nearly every day for six months). But the fact remains that people spend many more hours watching their home team than other prime-time shows.

This works well for the regional networks — many of which are owned, at least in part, by the teams themselves.

The local popularity of baseball partially explains the poor World Series ratings in recent years. After following their home team for 162 games, fans may be unlikely to sit through a series between two teams they have rarely seen play and with 50 players whose names they may barely recognize. Instead, they’ll wait until next season, and tune back in to their local station.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15986096)
Would you believe if I told you that MLB has the most parity of any of the major sports? Certainly more than the NFL and NBA
Parity if you look at the World Series winners only - because the playoffs are a crap shoot and small market teams have gotten lucky.

Look at who makes the playoffs every year. Dodgers, Yanks and Red Sox basically guaranteed.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15986226)
They appear to have dropped the $180 million payroll minimum (though it seems odd that the MLBPA would have a problem with it; it's a re-allocation of money - that will end up being plowed into the floor and require those teams rolling $50 million payrolls to get more active in FA -- that should be HUGE for 'middle class' free agents).
Great. The one thing that would make the league undoubtedly better for small market fans, neither the players nor the owners want.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 15986418)
As a Pirates fan, baseball is pretty much unwatchable. If they want to play dumb over billions of dollars, so be it. I will find other ways to use my time.

All parties are awful in this spat but the MLBPA is easily the worst union in sports. They don't understand the concept of compromise.
No team would benefit more from a salary floor than the Pirates.

ChiefsCountry 12-02-2021 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15986716)
Great. The one thing that would make the league undoubtedly better for small market fans, neither the players nor the owners want.
A bunch of shitty players getting big contracts just to fill salary cap isn't great either.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2021 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15986695)
And fast forward to 2021…

MLB Seeing Local TV Households Decline Dramatically Compared With Last Full Season

DJJasonp 12-02-2021 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 15986198)
Soccer is the best sport in the world. d
Ummm.......I love soccer, but no.

Flops that make vlade divac look like Shaq, shady refs, arbitrary fouls/cards.....only one person in the stadium knows when the game will end........

Soccer is great.....but it's not the best.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15986728)
A bunch of shitty players getting big contracts just to fill salary cap isn't great either.
The salary cap/floor works fine in the NFL. Let's go with that.

ChiefsCountry 12-02-2021 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15986734)
The salary cap/floor works fine in the NFL. Let's go with that.
You mean the NFL where only 6 franchises have made the Super Bowl from the AFC since 2003?

DJ's left nut 12-02-2021 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15986596)
Tons of people on this board watch the Royals pretty much every day. I'd assume that's true of the Cardinals as well. WTF are you talking about?
In his defense, I make it a point to watch a Chiefs game.

I watch the Cardinals while I'm doing other things. I don't sit down for first pitch and watch all 9 innings. And there aren't a hell of a of baseball fans more attuned to the game than I am.

But to me, that's part of the charm. 162 games with no clock and a leisurely pace. It isn't appointment television and doesn't need to be. It's filler - empty calories. If football is essentially raw protein, baseball is my loaded baked potato.

And I'm just fine with that. I don't need Michael Bay to be the next commissioner in order to enjoy the sport for what it is (and what it is not).

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-02-2021 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15986722)
No team would benefit more from a salary floor than the Pirates.
Bob Nutting is the worst owner in sports.

Boxer_Chief 12-02-2021 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15986732)
I could be wrong but I think that has mostly to do with the TV deal. Bally sports isn’t on any TV or streaming services hardly at all so this numbers are down. I would watch the royals every night before but couldn’t this year and I know many other teams have the same contract with Bally Sports. The Royals even in the bad years were smashing TV viewing in the area.

Edit - it mentions Bally but from what I’ve seen online that’s the biggest compliant from fans.


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