Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 16200723)

I don't believe DaFace was taking a jab at your financial state.



What he is saying is that while yes, you are *technically* correct that it takes a lifetime to charge from a 120v BUT... if someone has enough dough to spend on an $80k car then they probably not only have the extra $700 it costs to install the 220 outlet and purchase the charger... they also probably live in a home that has wiring which can support 220v.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16204071)

Nice! I definitely love the ACC and lane assist (not that those are exclusive to EVs). They definitely help on long road trips or when you're in slow moving traffic. Looks like a fun little car.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204198)

I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 16199970)

Holy shit what a ****ing ordeal this has been so far. Man oh man... their cars better function better than their employees do.

Most dealers I called didn't have the car. No worries there... that is understandable.

3 dealers had a "market price adjustment" markup of $3k that was not reflected on their websites. That annoyed me but whatever.

Then we get to Don at Manhattan Kia. I say again... **** THAT GUY. I literally got in a yelling match with that asshole because he constantly talked over me and did everything short of call me a liar in regards to Kia offering that lease option.

I then called Kia to confirm that this offer even existed because Don stated that the problem must be on Kia's side. That went absolutely nowhere after 2 hours.

I called another dealership (Anderson Kia in St. Joe) who had a car in stock and the dipshit there told me that I would have to come up with the $7,500 money up front from the tax rebate and I would get that back from the government later. I paused, reminded him that I don't own the car on a lease... the leasing company does therefore I don't get the rebate. I heard silence on the other end of the line and then "yeah, that's just how it is". *insert price is right fail horn* Not wanting to argue with yet another salesperson about this I simply thanked him and hung up.

I started calling dealerships in St. Louis and landed on Jim Butler Kia where I talked to a dude named Rex. I explained my situation:

* First I asked him if he had any Nero EVs and lucky for me... there is one coming on the truck and it arrives tomorrow or Monday.

* Second I asked him for his mobile number so I could text him the offer from Kia and explained that I have hit brick wall after brick wall on this and just needed to know if his dealership would honor the offer at the price I had built out. He read gave it a first glance and said it looked good, kept reading, then hit that same spot about the fed tax rebate. Asked me to hang on while he talked to the manager.

He comes back and tells me that it is solid, explained that the rebate offer was EXACTLY as I anticipated, and let me put down a deposit on the vehicle. We may get it as early as tomorrow and as late as Monday.

HUZZAH!!!!!!

If you are gonna get this car... **** every last dealership in Kansas City and the immediate surrounding area. Hit up Jim Butler KIA in St. Louis and ask for Rex.

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I will update this thread with either photos of the vehicle or a rant about how KIA ****ed me yet again.

Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16204243)

Are you buying strictly for the gas mileage? Electric cars aren't nearly as green as people think.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204198)

I find them both annoying. Our ACC is way too sensitive and it slows the car jarringly at times. The lane assist is also too sensitive so the car is constantly beeping at me over nothing.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16204284)

I don't care about the environment at all. I will dunk a baby seal in oil. Rahh I'm crazy. I just want this nation to become less dependent on oil, and it's way less cost for ownership and for use than gas.

Originally Posted by fan4ever (Post 16204243)

Are you buying strictly for the gas mileage? Electric cars aren't nearly as green as people think.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16204323)

There are definitely wide variances in how natural they feel. I had ACC on a rental a few years back and hated it, but I really like it on the RAV4P. You do still occasionally find yourself behind a slow car without realizing it, but overall it does a nice job. And again, the place where I like it the best is in traffic where I can just kind of set it and let it do its thing rather than constantly going back and forth between the brake and accelerator.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16204343)

We do a lot of interstate driving. In town, ACC is a lot more tolerable. On the interstate, it's terrible.

The big problem is that you can't turn it off. If CC is on, safety measures are on. You can't enable CC and shut off the ACC, it's all or nothing.