I projected a trade like that for awhile but I believe it will take a 3rd, 4th and likely a later day 3 pick.

But I don’t think Karlaftis or Johnson will be there so I wonder who that would be for?

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If Karlaftis falls I'd love to take him. Not sure about trading up for him though.

I'm not trading any more than a 3rd for anybody. Those 1st and 2nd round picks are way too valuable.

He’s also missing our 4th round pick from the Dolphins.

I like double dipping on DE but Mafe and Drake Jackson aren’t it.

He did take your boy Dulcich.

Yeah, I think Taylor was being generous there.

Let's say Williams is available. The Packers are one spot away from that pick and would presumably be willing to 'block' us there. IF you're the Patriots and the Chiefs are on the phone offering a 3rd, you call the Packers and say 'hey, I'm moving out of this spot unless you give me a 3rd to move up 1..."

And the Packers probably make that deal. If you're the Chiefs, you're likely gonna have to 'lose' the trade by the draft charts to get up there.

And that's where I start saying no-dice.

I just want the draft to get here already, dammit. I'm tired of jerking off.

If they hit, sure.

Those end of the first picks just aren't as valuable as we all want them to be. IF you can package them somehow to go up and get an impact player, do it.

Same here.

Just stop.

Besides the fifth year option, is there a difference in the player taken at 29 or 30 and the guy taken at 45-50 in a normal draft year?

Yeah, for the same reasons I like Dulcich as well.

I wish I knew who he had on his board around those picks. I just cannot see a scenario where Mafe and Jackson are the 'right' gets there.

I will say that he's pretty tuned into what the Chiefs like and so are some of the other podcast guys - they have sources here and there. And to see Mafe and Logan Hall so routinely noted as possible early picks makes me really nervous.

I mean I don't hate either of those guys, but those are late 2nd, early 3rd guys to me. And when someone with a finger on the pulse of the organization suggests that they are really strong considerations....man, I hope that's just a media echo chamber where those guys sit around and talk themselves into the same handful of dudes (y'know, kinda like the CP draft forum) and not a line they're getting from the front office.

And NOBODY is talking Sam Williams to the Chiefs. And that gives me a sad.

That's the problem - this isn't a normal draft year. You keep ignoring that fact.

I know and understand you draftniks wanna sit tight and make all those picks and hit on all those draft picks.

I don't think the Chiefs will and or feel the same.

Are there 30 first round pick players in this draft?

I dont' think so.

So sure, it's a good draft. It's not generational.

If they draft a RB with a top 50 pick....well thats not good.