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BossChief 04-13-2022 02:40 PM

I’m not a huge fan of the Booth pick, but I wouldn’t hate it. He had a few bad games last year that gave me pause when I was looking at corners for the CP mock. I think the reasons are correctable though.

Kris1982 04-13-2022 02:41 PM

I feel our biggest need is CB then edge. Grab Gardner then Ojabo or Boye with 30. Travis Jones or Logan Hall at 50 and best WR available at 62.

BossChief 04-13-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16244759)
Yeah let’s go to war with Ojabo. Maybe in 2023.

Maybe

He’s be on the field by mid season and the playoffs…and the next 4 years.

Maybe.

htismaqe 04-13-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16244784)
He’s be on the field by mid season and the playoffs…and the next 4 years.

Maybe.

He might never be the same.

Maybe.

Kris1982 04-13-2022 02:46 PM

Or stay at 29 and get a CB (Booth, Elam, McDuffie, Gordon). At 30 take Ojabo and follow it up with Boye at 50. Frank Clark is absolutely horrible so we need to people off the edge.
At 62 we have some nice picks of WR.

BossChief 04-13-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris1982 (Post 16244769)
Trade 29 and a 1st and 3rd next year to the Jets if Gardner falls to 10?

I would do that.

In this mock, there’s no slot worth trading up to for a specific player in the first.

BossChief 04-13-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris1982 (Post 16244788)
Or stay at 29 and get a CB (Booth, Elam, McDuffie, Gordon). At 30 take Ojabo and follow it up with Boye at 50. Frank Clark is absolutely horrible so we need to people off the edge.
At 62 we have some nice picks of WR.

I’d be calling Indy to move up to 42 from 50 to get Mafe, no doubt.

Kris1982 04-13-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16244792)
I’d be calling Indy to move up to 42 from 50 to get Mafe, no doubt.

I would in a heartbeat.

RunKC 04-13-2022 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16244787)
He might never be the same.

Maybe.

Yup. Achilles injuries are far worse than ACL.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-13-2022 02:58 PM

Trash

htismaqe 04-13-2022 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16244800)
Yup. Achilles injuries are far worse than ACL.

I mean, if we're serious about taking a guy that's injured, I'd much rather go with Williams and his ACL over Ojabo and his Achilles.

BossChief 04-13-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16244787)
He might never be the same.

Maybe.

I’ve said it before but it bears repeating.

I’m taking Ojabo with the intent to take another edge guy snd signing a vet or drafting 3 total edge guys. Every team that contends needs 2-3 edge guys anyway snd this class depth allows us to do that at a discount.

If Ojabo never regains his explosiveness, we would still have 2 edge guys next year and if he does, we have a Von/Shaq/Ware kind of situation for 4-5 years…both scenarios solve the problem with similar resources it would take to move up for an elite edge guy in most drafts from where we will be picking in the forseable future.

If we get Karlaftis and Ojabo…then add another edge guy in the 3rd or fourth (Williams, Isiah, Cam or any of 4-5 others) as a hedge pick for the Ojabo pick….we could afford to extend Chris Jones instead of trading him because of the value from this draft.

htismaqe 04-13-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16244807)
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating.

I’m taking Ojabo with the intent to take another edge guy snd signing a vet or drafting 3 total edge guys. Every team that contends needs 2-3 edge guys anyway snd this class depth allows us to do that at a discount.

If Ojabo never regains his explosiveness, we would still have 2 edge guys next year and if he does, we have a Von/Shaq/Ware kind of situation for 4-5 years…both scenarios solve the problem with similar resources it would take to move up for an elite edge guy in most drafts from where we will be picking in the forseable future.

If we get Karlaftis and Ojabo…then add another edge guy in the 3rd or fourth (Williams, Isiah, Cam or any of 4-5 others) as a hedge pick for the Ojabo pick….we could afford to extend Chris Jones instead of trading him because of the value from this draft.

This is a deep DE class. There's no reason to take 3 just to cover your ass because you wasted a pick on Ojabo. Take 2 that you know can play and be done with it.

All of this talk of hedging your bets so you can take a huge question mark in Ojabo is just foolish.

BossChief 04-13-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16244812)
This is a deep DE class. There's no reason to take 3 just to cover your ass because you wasted a pick on Ojabo. Take 2 that you know can play and be done with it.

All of this talk of hedging your bets so you can take a huge question mark in Ojabo is just foolish.

We can agree to disagree based on our personal levels of comfort with usage of resources. I’m a lot more of a gambler than you are. All of these DEs after the first 3-4 have flaws on or off field that could limit or completely derail their careers.

The difference with Ojabo is his upside is the best pass rusher from this class and a guy that can play end or OLB in this defense…that’s another part of why I’d take 3. You can get all 3 on the field at the same time to overload if you want while also mainly rotating the 3 to keep them fresh. I’m not the only one that sees a lot of DT in him.

O.city 04-13-2022 03:27 PM

They're gonna trade 29 or 30 for a pass rusher before the draft anyway, so I woudln't worry about it.


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