Modern rifles are pretty good these days. It's more about the quality of the bullet, imo.

I took a long range precision shooting class a few years ago, using my stock Savage M110 (.30-'06) and hit the 1000M gong 6 out of 10 times. But I built the bullet. It took more than a dozen test ladders, iirc to find the right combination of projectile, powder, charge weight, etc. That was about two months of building and firing test bullets, I think. But none of the factory bullets I tried were acceptable, imo, so I ended up building one.

Hell yes. Thank you for your service.

Class 03/04-11

Does that make you believe me? Did my dates make you suddenly stop being a dick because you can’t imagine people can shoot 1000 yards?

You didn't hit shit. I'm still here.

Lol. Tell me you don’t shoot, without telling me. Cold bore at 1000 is much different…but I’m sure you already knew that.

You don’t have shit to prove to me. I can tell you don’t shoot though.

1000+ yard shots aren’t very difficult one you establish your holds, position, range, a basic understanding of the current environment, and the bore is warm. It’s just a matter of consistency at that point. Consistency is accuracy. But real world requires cold bore shots. You do you man. I appreciate your service. We can leave it at that.

YOLO

Exactly. I've lobbed thousands of rounds under different conditions, logged results, temp, wind, pressure. After compiling that data it's not too difficult.

Obviously bullet, powder, load, etc matter. My Steyr SSG04 loves 155gr Sierra Matchking HPBT palmas loaded 43 grain (I'd have to look for powder type, my father does the loading). Steiner 4-16 Military sits on top of that with a mil-dot reticle that also shows .5 mil holdovers.

I have several scopes with christmas tree reticles, and they work great for dogs and coyotes, but I'm not a huge fan of them at the range.

I love it when I get to go to different areas, especially in the mountains where it's unfamiliar. That's a challenge. Lobbing bullets at a set range isn't.

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Actually, a reloaded .308 with 169 HPBT will run you around .65- .70/shot (powder, bullet, brass, primer). I stockpiled a shitload of gear years ago, new prices are probably more.

Given, a .308 will go subsonic on most days to 1000 and ****s with the stability a little, but still pretty good.

I get my brass once-shot from a guy that runs a sniper school in Oregon. Nicest damn man ever, and he sells it by the pound. Great deal.

Why are you bringing up cold bore shots? That isn’t anywhere in the discussion we were having. I have made lots of cold bore shots at very long distances, because I was required to. I do agree that it’s much nicer to have multiple shots at long distances to hit something consistently.


If I don’t have to prove shit, why did you ask me for my class number? Why give a dickhead answer when I didn’t give my class number in my first response? You can’t tell if I don’t shoot or shoot everyday, because you are pulling a BEP and changing the discussion.

Lol

Lol. Walking a shot on at long range takes no skill. I’m sure you’ve made plenty of cold bore shots at 300 at an echo target. Well done.

30 + Guns and I dnt think I.own anything that would stabilize a bullet out that far.
Remington modle 81 in 300 Savage or a 8mm Mauser that i cut 12 inches off the barrel and bed it into a Boyd's stock. It's my wolf slayer.

Have Colt 6601 with a 1/7 twist that shoots Sierra 69gr HPBT Match really well out to 350. Buts that's all the room I had and dnt even have that anymore.

Kind of a funny side story:

My college roommate had a friend that used to come and visit him about twice a month who used to make up stories about being a sniper, Ranger, SEAL, or whatever he came up with at the time when trying to pickup girls.

Well one time he started talking to a group of girls who one of them had a boyfriend that just happened to be yucking it up across the bar with another group. After he already delivered his spiel of whatever SpecOps group he was in that night one of the girls boyfriends returned, it turns out he's a legit active duty SpecOp on leave.

He started asking him all kinds of questions, friendly at first, until he realized he was bullshiting. Grabbed him by the ear and said something about stealing valor (I was standing at a distance so couldn't hear well), escorted him to the door and kicked him by the ass into moving traffic. Almost got hit too.

I grew up in a military family but never served myself and listened to enough conversations to know that there's way too many little details to try and pretend you were part of the group. Plus SpecOps is a very small community, and everyone knows someone.

People that don't shoot but act like they do have their tells.

As soon as people tell me they think better in inches than metric (talking scopes) I kind of check out of the conversation.

My brain melts down when dudes try to do the math of adjustment in MOA at various distance. It's so simple but people can complicate it in a hurry.

I gave up trying to explain MOA and Mil to these guys a long time ago. I prefer mil after starting with MOA scopes. Really not much difference when it comes down to it.

When someone has a mildot recticle and MOA adjustments I just shake my head.