Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16550467)

First short yardage play we went right back to MEH.

Who, predictably, had a massive hole he jumped OUT of so he could slam into his O-Lineman and not pick up the first.

I screen captured the hole and just shook my head at it. I don't usually think those snapshot images are all that fair, but man - at the handoff there was a GIANT lane in front of him and he needed one stinking yard. And he bounced into his lineman instead.

He's just really damn bad.

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 16550762)

Can you post the screenshot?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16550768)

Maybe it's not so much about getting into a rhythm, but about getting more than 2-3 carries.

He's averaged over 5 YPC in every game where he's gotten more than 2-3 carries.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16550490)

I'm not a huge fan of how he flails about. Seems like there's some wasted energy there. Plus his arms are all over the place. At least he doesn't fumble...

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16550774)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfyDVncX...jpg&name=small

Look at that right foot. He's cutting INTO the pile. He had to actively pursue contact there when he had a MASSIVE running lane to the 1st down.

I really don't understand it at all.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16550751)

That's because you believe in rhythm runningbacks.

They're not a thing. Or at least they're an extremely rare thing.

Defenses get tired. They get tired chasing QBs and WRs on passing plays as well. And they don't get the kind of rest/rotation that the skill position guys they're chasing around get.

The idea that the way to tire out a defense is to run at them doesn't stand up to scrutiny and the idea that a RB will suddenly start seeing holes he wasn't seeing in the first half if you keep giving him the football doesn't pass the sniff test.

And again, even if it DID, the juice doesn't justify the squeeze. Half-assing drives in the first half with unproductive runs so that you can have more productive runs in the second half makes zero sense. Just move the damn ball. First drive, last drive and all drives in between. If you're running it well, keep running it. If you're passing it well, keep passing it.

But if you aren't running it well early, the idea that you should keep doing it so you can run the ball better (but still move the ball less efficiently than you would passing it) just doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16550793)

How many times have we see the offense start the game with an awful, awkward-looking series, only to begin shredding them by the 2nd or 3rd drive?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16550774)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfyDVncX...jpg&name=small

Look at that right foot. He's cutting INTO the pile. He had to actively pursue contact there when he had a MASSIVE running lane to the 1st down.

I really don't understand it at all.

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16550793)

My point is mainly that it's foolish to judge a back after a couple bad/mediocre rushes. Yet I see it all the time. It's more of a sample size issue than a rhythm issue.

But every player at any position usually needs at least a few plays to get into a rhythm against a good defense. How many times have we see the offense start the game with an awful, awkward-looking series, only to begin shredding them by the 2nd or 3rd drive?

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16550803)

Terrible.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16550812)

If you took out the names in these arguments you really wouldnt be able to tell if you were talking about Pacheco or CEH.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16550821)

Except for the 'powerful and fast' part...