I think I posted on a similar thread but ill just post similarily here.

Josh Allen already has more postseason success than Rivers ever did, and its not for a lack of quality teams the Chargers had.

Allen is an elite QB and if it weren't for the most powerful dose of Mahomes Magic and a coin flip, we lose in the Divisional and the narrative is MUCH different. Its quite early to be counting him out simply because the Bills have lost a few games. It's not like Mahomes wasn't THE reason why we've lost games in the past, similar to whats going on with Allen right now.

Its not like I love Allen, I hate his guts, but I respect his talent enough to know its way too early to act like Josh Allen will now suddenly fall off a cliff for the rest of his career.

I don't think anyone is arguing he's not a top 5 QB.

His problem is he started in the league the same year and in the same conference as a truly generational talent in Mahomes.

Yeah I get that, and I'm sure we're all quite sick of the media downplaying Mahomes and looking for literally anyone to dethrone him.

But its hard to argue that Allen and the Bills aren't are our equals at this point, both talent-wise and organization-wise. Calling him Rivers 2.0 is quite a silly comparison. Rivers probably doesn't make it to the HOF, Mahomes and Allen are probably first ballot.

You don’t see any value in comparing recent stats that reflect a players current playing ability rather than lump in a rookie season where he played like crap?

There's a possibility Burrow is better

For the people who aren't good at the maths, that means Patrick averaged an astounding 2,540 yds, 26.5 TDs, and 153.5 1st downs in those two extra games.

Without even looking it up I'm going to go ahead say that's a world record over a two-game span.

why won't the NFL show us josh allen's passing chart?

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...-bills/2022/10

Rivers had Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger & the Pit defense to contend with. Other than Mahomes it's been Lamar, Tanhill and Baker

Patrick Mahomes is 9th in the NFL in on-target percentage this season.

Josh Allen is 34th.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...g_advanced.htm

here's another fun one

josh allen has been pressured less than anyone in football (12.4% pressure rate)

patrick mahomes has been pressured 18th most (20.8%)

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...g_advanced.htm

Gonna have to be Jimmy G and have the WRs reach for the stars on most throws

One of those was the Rams game for sure.

Justin Herbert is Phillip Rivers 2.0

Any idea how they measure on-target? Is it like a guy that just says “yeah, that’s on target” or “nah, that’s a bad pass”?

I wouldn’t have expected Geno Smith and Daniel Jones to be above Mahomes in that.