And sometimes it's good to go for the big hit and lead with your shoulder. If your a DB and see an opportunity to make a big hit that dislodges the ball, you should take it. That's just football at that point.

The point of the OP was that Chris Simms is saying Juju is hurt due to Mahomes. That's somewhat contrary to the actual segment, which seemed to me to be more defending against blaming Cisco for a dirty hit. He claimed that Cisco even let up and didn't truck straight through Juju. And then said "IF" anyone is to blame than Mahomes kinda led him. More of an observation than assigning fault. But he also said its just a football play, not dirty and no one did anything wrong per se.

10/10 times if a player on the Chiefs landed a shot like that this whole board argue to their deathbeds it was a clean solid tackle and we'd be blaming the receiver for lowering his helmet before getting hit.

Why are you trolling?

Juju couldn't really do anything about it. It was just an unfortunate play. Cisco wasn't trying to be dirty. He was crouched over and even turned away to brace himself and just trying to make a big hit. Just so happened that Juju was bent over and their helmets collided.

It should have been a penalty but there was nothing dirty or cheap about it at all.

That's what the replay looked like.

We haven't debated this enough, more hot takes pls.

I can agree with this.

Justin Reid made a good point, though.

He's been in the league 5 years - never been penalized for helmet to helmet contact. And he's a formidable hitter.

There's a way to hit guys hard and not be dirty. Honestly, I think Cisco managed it (maybe through blind, dumb luck) against MVS. I know Thornhill did it against Evans.

But the shot on JJSS was a dirty hit and it was a conscious decision by Cisco that put them both in that situation.

I’m going to go ahead and put a motion in saying we add “rhino rape AIDS” to the CP lexicon.

It was Andy Reid's fault for not running the ball more.

And JuJu mom's fault for taking him to practice all those times when he was younger.

I did find that to be an interesting tidbit from Reid. Granted, doesn’t necessarily mean he's never been involved in a hit like that, given not even Cisco was penalized.

I mean unless Cisco got down on his knees, how low can you expect him to go in that situation?

And Thornhill's hit that was totally clean WAS penalized.

No, it's not a perfect proxy, but I think over large numbers it means something. Cisco isn't going to get any benefit of the doubt going forward. I'm betting he sees an unnecessary roughness flag in the next 2-3 weeks and it's going to be in part because of the attention surrounding those 2 hits.

This. Nobody has taken the grassy knoll into account yet.