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AdolfOliverBush 01-24-2023 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16760926)
They clearly made defensive holding a point of emphasis for that Super Bowl, just like they did for the Chiefs/Rams Monday night game where the assigned ref crew was mysteriously replaced right before the game. The new crew came out and called multiple phantom defensive holding calls on the Rams' first drive, which resulted in a crazy offensive shootout and exciting near comeback by Mahomes.

The plan didn't work in the Super Bowl because of Eric Fisher's achilles.

There's a difference between a shadowy conspiracy rigging games and the league rewarding refs who steer the kind of games they want. They never have to say anything. It works the same way in big corporations. Your boss always has ways of communicating what they want, even if they can't come right out and say it for some reason (plausible deniability usually).
The NFL doesn't need officials to "steer" games in order to get the result they want. The league has done everything it can to increase parity, and that's how we get so many close/exciting games.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2023 11:49 AM
this just means i get to photoshop rocky mahomes knocking out cheffer lang

MAHOMES CHEFFERS III: FO DA RING

JPH83 01-24-2023 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16760674)
So the NFL likes a flag fest in the Super Bowl?
This is what I don't get. Madness. Just a horrible, horrible decision.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2023 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16760916)
I'm hopeful the rest of the crew (which I think [hope] isn't the same crew as his normal one) will call a better game and it will just be Cheffers being a ****lehead.

I don't mind a lot of flags. There is a LOT of blatant shit that they let go in every game, and the really big ones, sure throw the flag, I won't bitch. But what really grinds my ****ing gears are 2 things.

1. Not calling it for both sides. How the **** can this be a thing?

2. Call ticky tack shit while letting blatant shit, out in the open, ****ing go.

GOD that shit pisses me the **** off.

I don't mind a lot of calls, if they're competent.
The problem I have is when flags start flying out of proportion to norms.

The odds of two teams playing 18+ games in a season where they clearly demonstrate HOW they play and then suddenly in the playoffs becoming some undisciplined shit-show is just so damn remote.

They're going to play how they played all year. And if all season that yielded 7 flags a game then in the SB it yields 12...man, **** that. That's not a team that was committing more penalties, it's just a referee that's throwing more flags.

And yes, that's bad for the game.

These teams are what they are at this point. What 'could' be called but wasn't all season should have largely normalized over large numbers. And if suddenly all those 'could have been called but weren't' flags are being thrown, then the league has effectively altered the field on the fly. It simply creates bad football and an awful product.

Rainbarrel 01-24-2023 11:55 AM
Cheffers and a career ending ****ed up field

sd4chiefs 01-24-2023 12:00 PM
Before I clicked on this tread I was thinking 'Please don't let it be Cheffers, please, please, please.' Then :doh!:

straycash 01-24-2023 12:02 PM
hahaha not even hiding it, instead throws up the middle finger. Enjoy your product consoom

Rain Man 01-24-2023 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16760979)
The problem I have is when flags start flying out of proportion to norms.

The odds of two teams playing 18+ games in a season where they clearly demonstrate HOW they play and then suddenly in the playoffs becoming some undisciplined shit-show is just so damn remote.

They're going to play how they played all year. And if all season that yielded 7 flags a game then in the SB it yields 12...man, **** that. That's not a team that was committing more penalties, it's just a referee that's throwing more flags.

And yes, that's bad for the game.

These teams are what they are at this point. What 'could' be called but wasn't all season should have largely normalized over large numbers. And if suddenly all those 'could have been called but weren't' flags are being thrown, then the league has effectively altered the field on the fly. It simply creates bad football and an awful product.
That's the part that I see. We see it in game threads all the time. The fewer flags that are thrown on either side, the better we like it. I suspect we've had times where we lost to the opponent on the penalty ledger, but we didn't complain because the penalty flags weren't constantly disrupting the game.

It's also a simple fact that the more flags you throw, the more likely it is that they'll be game-changing and/or controversial. The Cheffers crew doesn't understand that, and apparently the NFL doesn't either.

htismaqe 01-24-2023 12:15 PM
Why is anybody torn up about this? We gotta make it to the Super Bowl before it's even a factor.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-24-2023 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16760743)
There’s your proof the NFL loves refball. Cheffers is the absolute worst at taking over the game.

This is how ROG can steer outcomes w/o ever coming out and saying anything incriminating. Cheffers knows what the league wants, he delivers, he’s rewarded for it, other refs see that.
Quoting your post so it gets that many more views. That is EXACTLY how Tim Donaghy describes the real world rigging. You are 100% on point.

Rain Man 01-24-2023 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16761047)
Why is anybody torn up about this? We gotta make it to the Super Bowl before it's even a factor.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/TYwtO.jpg

TwistedChief 01-24-2023 12:28 PM
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In 17 games this season, Cheffers' crews called 214 penalties for 1,869 yards, according to NFLpenalties.com and profootballreference.com, which averaged to about 14.35 per game. Those total numbers ranked No. 1 among all referees in 2022, according to NFLpenalties.com, whereas his average tied for second in the league. Cheffers mostly called false starts and offensive holding penalties, but also called defensive pass interference 17 times and unnecessary roughness 13 times, which ranked third in both categories.

One of the biggest concerns this year has revolved around roughing-the-passer penalties, but Cheffers called only six in 2022, which ranked sixth among his peers.

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Cheffers' crew has a few veterans and two first-time Super Bowl officials.

Line judge Jeff Bergman is the most tenured official to work a Super Bowl and plans to retire after 30 seasons in the league. Side judge Eugene Hall will be officiating his third Super Bowl in five seasons – the most in that timespan since Tom Sifferman, according to Football Zebras. Umpire Roy Ellison and back judge Dino Paganelli will also be a part of their third Super Bowl team. Hall and Paganelli were both on Cheffers' staff in 2021.

As for the firsts, down judge Jerrod Phillips will become the first citizen of the Cherokee Nation to be assigned to a Super Bowl, according to Football Zebras.
Bergman. He's going to be like Reggie Jackson in Naked Gun: "I must kill the Chiefs."

Whoever will be our Enrico Palazzo?

Pepe Silvia 01-24-2023 12:30 PM
F*** you in your face Roger.

ptlyon 01-24-2023 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16760674)
So the NFL likes a flag fest in the Super Bowl?
Happens anytime Brady is in one anyway...

Wisconsin_Chief 01-24-2023 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16760680)
This is the reason people suspect that games are steered, when you have one of the worst ranked crews assigned to the biggest game.
So it doesn’t click in your brain when you type that? Why would they pick the worst crew to do the SB?

It’s because they aren’t the worst crew in the NFL’s eyes, they are clearly one of their favorites. What does that tell you?


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