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Red Dawg 12-11-2023 09:28 AM

When the Chiefs commit a penalty, I expect the refs to not throw a flag. When the other team commits a penalty, I expect the refs to throw a flag. That's where I'm at.

T-post Tom 12-11-2023 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17273509)
offensive offsides is never called

I literally can't remember the last time I've seen this called

if its something that's never called , it's just frustrating that they call it at that moment.

It probably happens a lot so them choosing to call it right then seems lame

then to top it off, they didn't call the defensive offsides right after

Yes! This is the majority of Andy and Patrick’s ire. And they expressed it as such.

Rainbarrel 12-11-2023 09:31 AM

Buffalo gets a parade tomorrow, let them have their reprieve from Josh's mediocre playoff record

Hammock Parties 12-11-2023 09:31 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes is right. It shouldn&#39;t have been offsides.<br><br>It should have been offsides AND illegal formation <a href="https://t.co/nIReATWo92">https://t.co/nIReATWo92</a> <a href="https://t.co/NCEEavlqY8">pic.twitter.com/NCEEavlqY8</a></p>&mdash; Low Ceilings l Cover 1 �� (@LowBuffa) <a href="https://twitter.com/LowBuffa/status/1734209024499892248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

stevieray 12-11-2023 09:38 AM

It was a gifted series. If Buffalo simply runs the ball on their last set of downs, they eat up the clock and its game over.

They had three chances last week to seal the game, and failed.

Their second half play is atrocious and are wasting the best defense we've seen in years.

This all looks eerily familiar, and that's not a good sign.

WhawhaWhat 12-11-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17273509)
offensive offsides is never called

I literally can't remember the last time I've seen this called

if its something that's never called , it's just frustrating that they call it at that moment.

It probably happens a lot so them choosing to call it right then seems lame

then to top it off, they didn't call the defensive offsides right after

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I just referenced on <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gmfb</a> (per researcher Rich Goldberg), the last time the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> have been called for an offensive offsides was 1995. <br><br>Jeff Criswell was called for offensive offsides in 1995 Week 7 against the Patriots.</p>&mdash; Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1734190041595847075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Calcountry 12-11-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17273068)
AI has a future in a football league that wants officials to be better.

Can I program the algorithm? The Chiefs would do very well in that situationROFL

ThaVirus 12-11-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 17273466)
Creed "always" moves ball back from line of scrimmage pre snap. No idea why.

All centers do it, tbh.

They’ve got to snap the ball and get their hands up to block. The less distance that ball has to travel to be snapped, the sooner they can get their hands up and on a defender.

stumppy 12-11-2023 09:43 AM

**** you KaPOSdarius Toney. That mofo needs to get thrown off of this team. And I mean actually thrown out the door.

Calcountry 12-11-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17273330)
Again, watch the entire play. Toney was absolutely mugged at 10 yard by two Bills, after Watson was called the series before. Should have been illegal contact and offsetting as well. These calls were made or it ignored by the same two officials who didn't call Von Miller offside and the one who called illegal contact on Watson. Just be ****ing consistent.

The envelopes will be showing up in the dropbox

Eleazar 12-11-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17273540)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As I just referenced on <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gmfb</a> (per researcher Rich Goldberg), the last time the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> have been called for an offensive offsides was 1995. <br><br>Jeff Criswell was called for offensive offsides in 1995 Week 7 against the Patriots.</p>&mdash; Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1734190041595847075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There are three inter-related beefs with the call.

1. It's customary for the officials to correct alignment, but they did not do it in this critical situation.

2. Even knowing they didn't do it, they threw the flag and called back a key play for a foul that didn't affect the play.

3. It's so rare a penalty that it's the first one for an Andy Reid team ever, and the first one for the Chiefs in almost 30 years.


The penalty is Toney's fault. He's guilty. He's got to not be stupid and line up properly.

But the beefs are, "Is this really the way we want the game officiated?"

Players rely on the officials to correct alignment but then penalties get called when the officials don't do it.

Officials say they want players to determine the outcome, but they determined the outcome here over a very minor infraction that didn't affect the play.

But the penalty is Toney's fault. His empty headed screwups have cost us at least 2 games.

Calcountry 12-11-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273438)
Every ****ing professional sports team, EVER, has had to deal with refball. You know how you mitigate it? By playing fundamentally sound and disciplined ball and taking it out of their hands as much as possible. Having your WR line up completely offsides while your RT is lined up improperly, AGAIN, is the exact opposite.

I remember getting called repeatedly for ticky-tacky things in a flag football game. Then the middle linebacker beat me so when the play turned up field at the sideline, I clipped him square in the middle of his back and sent him squirreling out of bounds pure cheap shot. Thinking I might as well get my moneys worth since they’re going to tick tack all game. Guess what? I didn’t get called for that one.

DJJasonp 12-11-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17273556)
There are three inter-related beefs with the call.

1. It's customary for the officials to correct alignment, but they did not do it in this critical situation.

2. Even knowing they didn't do it, they threw the flag and called back a key play for a foul that didn't affect the play.

3. It's so rare a penalty that it's the first one for an Andy Reid team ever, and the first one for the Chiefs in almost 30 years.


The penalty is Toney's fault. He's guilty. He's got to not be stupid and line up properly.

But the beefs are, "Is this really the way we want the game officiated?"

Players rely on the officials to correct alignment but then penalties get called when the officials don't do it.

Officials say they want players to determine the outcome, but they determined the outcome here over a very minor infraction that didn't affect the play.

But the penalty is Toney's fault. His empty headed screwups have cost us at least 2 games.

fair assessment.

Kind of like.......do we really want to call a cheap pass interference in the endzone on a last-second hail mary?

ToxSocks 12-11-2023 10:00 AM

****ed by Cheffers again. Everyone knew it was going to happen too. You may not have known how. But if we're being honest with ourselves, we all knew that a whacky Cheffers penalty would largely affect the outcome of this game. Again.

DJJasonp 12-11-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17273591)
****ed by Cheffers again. Everyone knew it was going to happen too. You may not have known how. But if we're being honest with ourselves, we all knew that a whacky Cheffers penalty would largely affect the outcome of this game. Again.

yep. and contrary to popular narrative, it's not because he sucks at his job......it's because he's actually very good at it.


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