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Rainbarrel 04-19-2024 08:19 AM
You can't make kids wear condoms, so promote soccer

Lzen 04-19-2024 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17485441)
Soccer sucks
And why do they call it a pitch? It's a field.

petegz28 04-19-2024 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17486379)
You can't make kids wear condoms, so promote soccer
OR.....

Play soccer and ...

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Lzen 04-19-2024 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17486302)
I don't think they do not take breaks per say but the momentum they have to keep changes so drastically and in a split second in a way football rarely does. Coupled with the ground they have to cover in order to be an effective player.

The acceleration and change of direction and deceleration can be eye opening.

Since we are talking about football vs soccer this is an interesting video talking about why Messi is one of the best and it talks about his movement in comparison to a former Chiefs player of all people Jamaal Charles.

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That's pretty impressive. Not to denigrate him but the comparison to a football player in pads running is not a fair comparison.

chiefzilla1501 04-19-2024 09:23 AM
It’s obviously apples and oranges to compare soccer players to football players who wear pads and get hit. But without a doubt soccer is extremely intensive on cardio and there’s hard data. They generally run about 7-9 miles. And it is basically like doing a 90 minute practice where you did nonstop sprints with minute breaks in between each one.

https://canada.humankinetics.com/blo...-soccer-player
“ sprints in soccer are 10 to 30 yards (9 to 27 m) long and happen every 45 to 90 seconds. The overall distance an adult male professional player covers at a sprint is roughly 800 to 1,000 yards (730 to 910 m), although in 10- to 30-yard (9 to 27 m) chunks. Hard runs (cruising) happen every 30 to 60 seconds. The time between these hard runs is spent walking, jogging, or standing.”

petegz28 04-19-2024 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17486397)
That's pretty impressive. Not to denigrate him but the comparison to a football player in pads running is not a fair comparison.
So you're saying someone running in pads is harder than someone running while dribbling a ball with their feet?

|Zach| 04-19-2024 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17486397)
That's pretty impressive. Not to denigrate him but the comparison to a football player in pads running is not a fair comparison.
Honestly someone running in pads straight line speed and him running while controling the ball at his feet while also managing the defense that is closing in on him. I agree its not a fair comparison but not in the direction you think.

Katipan 04-19-2024 11:04 AM
NFL players don't wear shit anymore.
Like 6 lbs of pads and a helmet.

LoneWolf 04-19-2024 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17486554)
Honestly someone running in pads straight line speed and him running while controling the ball at his feet while also managing the defense that is closing in on him. I agree its not a fair comparison but not in the direction you think.
Running in pads in a pattern while reading the defense and then adjusting to a ball thrown from 40 yards away and catching it while still maintaining momentum knowing at any moment someone could slam into you at a force comparable to small automobile accident vs. running while kicking a ball and then slowly walking around until the ball comes back to you. Hmmm....wonder which one is harder?

|Zach| 04-19-2024 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17486613)
Running in pads in a pattern while reading the defense and then adjusting to a ball thrown from 40 yards away and catching it while still maintaining momentum knowing at any moment someone could slam into you at a force comparable to small automobile accident vs. running while kicking a ball and then slowly walking around until the ball comes back to you. Hmmm....wonder which one is harder?
Honestly....completely disagree and I do not think you have a great read on the situation but no reason to go on about it.

petegz28 04-19-2024 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17486613)
Running in pads in a pattern while reading the defense and then adjusting to a ball thrown from 40 yards away and catching it while still maintaining momentum knowing at any moment someone could slam into you at a force comparable to small automobile accident vs. running while kicking a ball and then slowly walking around until the ball comes back to you. Hmmm....wonder which one is harder?

Tell us you don’t know soccer without telling us you don’t know soccer….


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petegz28 04-19-2024 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17486599)
NFL players don't wear shit anymore.
Like 6 lbs of pads and a helmet.

That’s a very fair point. I don’t think anyone is saying soccer is nearly as violent as football but it’s definitely more physical than basketball and the requirements of a soccer player from a fitness perspective is one of the most demanding. Like Zach’s video showed, Messi accelerates at the same speed as Charles but he is doing it with a ball at his feet. It’s a lot harder to dribble a ball with your feet, keep your head up and run at full speed than just about anything else in sports.

People love to say they only like sports where you can use your hands and I find it’s because having to use your feet is too hard for them so they’ve just poo-poo’d it from the start.


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ThrobProng 04-19-2024 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 17486658)
That’s a very fair point. I don’t think anyone is saying soccer is nearly as violent as football but it’s definitely more physical than basketball and the requirements of a soccer player from a fitness perspective is one of the most demanding. Like Zach’s video showed, Messi accelerates at the same speed as Charles but he is doing it with a ball at his feet. It’s a lot harder to dribble a ball with your feet, keep your head up and run at full speed than just about anything else in sports.

People love to say they only like sports where you can use your hands and I find it’s because having to use your feet is too hard for them so they’ve just poo-poo’d it from the start.


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Jamaal Charles? Maybe if they raced today...maybe.

petegz28 04-19-2024 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17486662)
Jamaal Charles? Maybe if they raced today...maybe.

Did you watch the video Zach posted?


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ThrobProng 04-19-2024 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 17486716)
Did you watch the video Zach posted?


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I just did. I initially took your post as meaning Messi could keep up with Charles in a foot race, which obviously isn't the case.


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