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Megatron96 12-04-2024 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17840523)
Try it yourself.



Okay, so I just did. and fyi, the most common playback speed on YT sn't 20 fps, it's 30pfs.

The first time, I began playback at :06. And it took 58 frames before TL goes into his slide.

However, at :06 TL is still 9 yds short of the line-to-gain and isn't close to going into his slide yet. So I advanced until he passes the front of the '5' in the 50-yd line, because he's still in full stride at that point, with about 4 yds to the line-to-gain.

Then advanced until TL is going into his slide about 2 yds short of the LtG, about 16 frames later, or about 1/2 second after passing the 5 in the 50-yd line.

Then advanced until contact is made by Shaair. That's about 14 frames, or slightly under 1/2 second, assuming it's standard fps.

So, we're talking about Shaair having to make a decision about how to tackle TL and defend the LtG in less than 1/2 second from the first moment he could see that TL was sliding.

That's not a lot of time.



P.S. I checked the fps; it is 30 fps.

Mecca 12-04-2024 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17840705)
He mentioned Islamphobia in his apology.

Professional victimhood is the big thing now.

It couldn't have possibly been because twitter was going nuts about his cleats, wanting him deported, or calling him a terrorist for an entire day before his apology.

mr. tegu 12-04-2024 04:40 PM

We see this happen to defenders all the time. Even on close ones where they make contact they typically avoid as much as possible, maybe drawing a penalty, but not committing to the hit as hard as possible like he did.

I also think anyone defending this is not understanding how big 5 yards is. Lawrence starts his slide 5 yards in front of him. Go measure 15 feet (12 if you want to be generous) and tell me that’s impossible to pull up on at least somewhat. He doesn’t even get the excuse he was coming full speed because he wasnt. It was like half speed moving diagonally across the field before committing to the hit.

DaFace 12-04-2024 04:45 PM

Not that I'm an advocate for matching injury time with suspension time, but just for the record...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars placed QB Trevor Lawrence on injured reserve. His season looks to be done.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1864414536385667252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 12-04-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17840718)
Not that I'm an advocate for matching injury time with suspension time, but just for the record...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaguars placed QB Trevor Lawrence on injured reserve. His season looks to be done.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1864414536385667252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In this case it should be since the intention was injure.

Megatron96 12-04-2024 05:17 PM

So, I'm posting the video from the moment TL shortens his stride and his head comes up, which is about the first moment tht Shaair could reasonably be expected to know TL is sliding. He's about 4 yds from the LtG.
https://youtu.be/t4JoJKVhtsM?t=6

I mean, I hate this guy, but that's just not a lot of time.

DaFace 12-04-2024 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17840768)
So, I'm posting the video from the moment TL shortens his stride and his head comes up, which is about the first moment tht Shaair could reasonably be expected to know TL is sliding. He's about 4 yds from the LtG.
https://youtu.be/t4JoJKVhtsM?t=6

I mean, I hate this guy, but that's just not a lot of time.

Yet it was enough time for him to lower his point of contact and raise his forearm.

Megatron96 12-04-2024 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17840783)
Yet it was enough time for him to lower his point of contact and raise his forearm.




Maybe QBs just shouldn't be allowed to run. Or maybe they can't slide if they're on a designed run. Because TL is a RB in this play; I doubt anyone would be this upset if that were a RB and not TL there. Of course, no RB would be sliding there either.

NJChiefsFan 12-04-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17840321)
FloridaMan88 was literally doing just that in CPDC a couple days ago lol

This is wild. I'm all for this suspension but I am always blown away with how ignorant people are willing to be. I always forget attempting to be intelligent is not stock operation for some people.

FloridaMan88 12-04-2024 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17840321)
FloridaMan88 was literally doing just that in CPDC a couple days ago lol

I said deport him out of the NFL.

Learn how to read.

Mecca 12-04-2024 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17840805)
I said deport him out of the NFL.

Learn how to read.

Yes for a man that has never been suspended until now, seems a bit unfair.

FloridaMan88 12-04-2024 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17840830)
Yes for a man that has never been suspended until now, seems a bit unfair.

He has a track record of cheap shots/dirty hits, yes?

Mecca 12-04-2024 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17840832)
He has a track record of cheap shots/dirty hits, yes?

He has 2/3 depending on how you view the Brady thing in 6 years.

irafreak 12-04-2024 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17840194)
They are going to have to do something, guys are being put in no win situations. To many QB's are slowing up like they are going to slide and not or getting by the sideline and then not dipping out when defenders let up.

You are literally going to hit a point of someone getting completely blasted because "Just hit them anyway" may become something that is coached.

Nah we're not seeing players pretend to slide. Lawrence slid plenty early...enough that no defender should have led forearm fist into his helmet as he was almost parallel with the ground. He really had to try to hit him that low.

FloridaMan88 12-04-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17840833)
He has 2/3 depending on how you view the Brady thing in 6 years.


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