Begs a question if he is unhealthy why? He didn’t have to be. Handing the ball off when you have a 14 point lead in that rainy shit hole mess when your defense is picking everything off should be a no-brainer.

I'd say....it's a pretty good backup QB situation. I'd play Wentz.

I disagree. An extra week of rest will help, we still have cushion on the playoff push, and while mahomes may deal with this ankle injury all year I don’t love a short recovery week immediately after he hurt it. We’re already kind of thinking to Christmas as is because we can’t exhaust our guys to lay a complete egg against the Steelers. Plus wentz is good enough that he can beat a reeling Texans team. Plus we won’t have Humphreys this week.

Different thread for that maybe but I think everyone thinks we should have been running the ball in the second half with the lead we had.

This will be the game we actually run the football and protect the QB and win by 21 because the defense steps up.

We'll finally call an intelligent game on offense and look decent because of it and the g00bers will state the Red Rocket needs to start from here on out.

Examples? Skip Bayless thinks that take is reeruned.

PMII.

What/who/why/when people?

I'd be intrigued to see what they can do with Wentz under center just to give us a new datapoint.

I mean right now we seem to believe that Mahomes is keeping the OL from looking even worse than it is. If we were to put Wentz under center, play as simple as possible and have him just hit his drop, throw the ball and then move onto the next play. We run the ball a bit more when the situation calls for it (as it did in the 3rd/4th quarter yesterday) and just make the offense as ordinary as it can be.

Then see what happens. It might be a damn disaster and prove that Mahomes is the only reason this offense is as much as ordinary. And it might not.

It was only 4 plays or however many yesterday, but....it didn't look disastrous.

This is where I'm at. I wouldn't at all say that I think Wentz is a better option than Mahomes, but I AM curious to know what it would look like.

Don't get me wrong - my expectation is NOT that the offense looks better.

It's that it still looks viable. With a far lesser light at QB. Which could then establish a clearer baseline of how it could work with the better QB back at the controls who now has a clearer vision of where he may just be gripping the bat too tight.

It'll look cleaner. And show better where the duct-tape and bubble game Mahomes and Reid have been using this year was/was not necessary. Where it's helped and where it's hurt.

And again, it might just look like shattered ass. In which case we know that maybe what we've seen over the last 8-10 weeks is (bizarrely) what we have to work with.

But I can't convince myself that's the case. I don't think one single change at LT has made everything THIS much worse.

I think we've lost the plot. And a step back may be hugely beneficial for everyone involved.

I mean it really comes down to this - how confident are we that we can win at Pittsburgh and at Denver, with Denver's season on the line.

Because we CANNOT lose the 1 seed.

So if we think we can win those 2 games and that perhaps giving Mahomes a rest is the best way to do that, go ahead and sit him.

But if Andy is concerned that those teams have shown stuff on tape that make winning on the road against them a real dicey proposition, we can't really afford to **** around. We need to start PM.

Start Mahomes until the 1 seed is secured or his foot falls off, whichever comes first.

The irony is that there's a chance that the Broncos won't have much to play for in that final game and we will. They're locked into a wildcard spot already obviously, so at most they'd be playing for seeding between 5-7 while we might be playing for the bye.