Yeah, was it the Bills game where they had the all-Worthy touchdown drive, and I think he got like 1 target the rest of the game... and that happened a bit today, too, even though he had a few other targets the rest of the game.

They did that DHop slant for a touchdown in his first or second game and have very rarely gone back to it, even though you really have to assume that's going to be a go-to in the postseason.

We put hours of thought into trustring receivers, trusting the line, learning the playbook, etc... and then you watch Amari Cooper make an immediate impact while Allen slings it around.

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

They honestly do look like playing offense is hard, Mahomes went from being the ****ing Boogeyman against the blitz to now it's 50/50 if the ball even comes out.

So what is your theory that he cant throw A deep ball this year?

I think it gets fixed with Hollywood Brown coming back to play.


Everything else will open up and it will be more efficient offense. The deep ball is just a luxury.

He has never been great. I know there was some wind and moisture out there it seems today. I am going to chalk up the drips and being so off to that.

He needs to learn some touch and let wr run to the ball though.

Wr drops like Worthy's bumbling on " easy" receptions. Kelce has regressed in this area too, makes spectacular grabs then doesn't catch it and kills the drive.

The Hopkins throw today was good imo. And if you think back to the playoffs he had that monumental deep pass to MVS to win the game and in the superbowl that massive throw to Hardman to get us into the ten.

Imo Pat is up and down with his deep passes. Sometimes it's his fault, other times it's not. MVS dropped that one against the Eagles last season too.

This year the Worthy bomb vs The Chargers was also good. It would be interesting to see how they would be if he had a good line around him.

I dont believe for a second that Mahomes has forgot how to throw the football...that air-mailed TD pass to Kelce in the Donks game was..."special". I've never seen him miss a play like that...sure kept the game close though...the "fan duel" special.

It was bad enough for me to start thinking it might have been deliberate....the assassin version of Mahomes has been MIA. It's felt off almost all season...like he's just doing the bare minimum to win games...because he IS that good.

There is MAYBE 2-3 throws all season where it was worthy's fault they didn't connect. That leaves at least 10-12 deep balls that sucked from Mahomes. That doesn't mean Mahomes sucks now, just that Mahomes needs more practice in live games to hit that long ball.

Gonna be honest here and it sounds weird but it’s true watching the tape: he’s thinking way too much.

He turned the ball over too much early and you can tell he’s purposefully not trying to put the ball in harms way. The overthrows today, especially to Worthy in the endzone, looked like a purposeful overthrow to avoid risk.

Others like the disastrous Worthy overthrow out of bounds vs Denver was due to the OL. His feet were a mess and he sped everything up. Same thing on the miss in SF.

He’s thinking far too much. And he’s also meshing with new players on the fly and it’s tough developing chemistry with a bad OL. And Kelce, Watson and Hopkins are not man-beaters. They can’t get open the way a QB needs guys to get open.

It’s a constant wheel of messiness making the QB think too much.

Right you are

I hate to say the dreaded word... Yips... Patrick has the yips. When he is thinking about what he is doing instead of reacting to the play, it becomes mechanical and forced. It's like a golfer standing over a chip shot; the practice swing is smooth and when the actual shot occurs, the real swing is short and choppy. I believe he will get out of it.

Skyy Moore

LOL, yep it's all Mahomes fault because Worthy knows all the route concepts with great hands l coupled with no drops in bounds/sarcasm.