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It's not making the kid tough, but simply identifies the jerk with impulse control issues. I have three kids and never hit any of them -- I'm sure as hell not going to let some coach on a power trip do so. I'm not against corporal punishment per se, but having consistently received smacks to the face at home and swats at school I can tell you that the only thing I "learned" from the violence is to avoid the assholes that used to hit me. |
Zullo issues a formal apology:
https://wnyt.com/top-stories/first-o...ghts-incident/ “I deeply regret my behavior following the loss to La Fargeville Friday night in the Class D state championship game. I want to offer my sincerest apologies to Hailey and her family, our team, the good folks at Northville Central Schools and our community. As a coach, under no circumstance is it acceptable to put my hands on a player, and I am truly sorry. I wish I could have those moments back. I am grateful for the opportunity to have coached girls basketball at Northville the past two years, especially last season, which was a difficult time for our family. I am super proud of every one of these young women and what they accomplished. I know each of them will go on to do great things and I wish them well.” |
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I snapped. Grabbed him by his throat and lifted him off the ground. He was maybe 5'2. My senses caught me and I dropped him. He was maybe 17. Well a few months later that same Tucker got into with another player. Went out into his car and brought in a gun. Thankfully nothing happened. But my ass definitely had him banned. I laughed because dudes yelled at me for snitching. **** that. |
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That is definitely not the likely explanation. There’s like a 1% chance he goes around tugging players for the last 20 years and it just now gets talked about or noticed. |
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Have you been living under a rock? Jesus this is almost as funny as the dude that had no idea about contraband cell phones in prison. |
I coached my son's football team and my daughter's soccer team. The soccer team was like 13-14 year old girls. I had a problem when they mouthed off, because I didn't feel like I could discipline them, other than bawling them out, which most didn't seem to care about.
The boys on the football team, if they acted up, it was perfectly acceptable and expected that I could grab them by the face mask or shoulder pads and give them a stern talking too. I dunno. If you're dealing with boys, it's different. This dude should not have yanked the girl's hair. Because she's a girl. That's pretty much it. You don't lay hands on a girl like that. An encouraging pat on the back or arm or whatever, that's fine. But not like that. Also, I'd never coach girls again. Pain in the ass. |
I think that's a pretty common dividing line here - "She's a girl"
Fellas, I absolutely understand if you don't watch girls sports. But let me tell you something - those girls are SAVAGES. I've developed a theory as I've watched my oldest move up in youth athletics and its mostly that there isn't nearly as much separation athletically. There are some that are just a little more explosive, but by and large, these girls are all pretty similarly athletic. They just hit a ceiling a bit that very very few of them break through. So for the lucky few that have outstanding coordination, they can 'skill' their way to the next level. But for the majority of them, if they want to stand out, they have to play physical as hell. Girls soccer and basketball are where I've seen it most. And ultimately its what'll knock my daughter out -- she just isn't willing to scrum and the best girls out there are. These are not wilting little flowers out there -- a bunch these girls are physical and can be mean as hell. And even someone like my daughter, who needs to be a bit more physical, has been pushed to the point by one of those aggressive girls to get an elbow into their back or put a leg out when it wasn't strictly necessary. I just think we have an odd and fairly arbitrary line we've drawn in a couple ways here. The girl thing being the first but the second is the strict "no touching" rule. And I get it -- that's the rule. But my HS football coach took ****ing glee in making kids vomit. He would run guys until their legs literally folded under them. And we CELEBRATE that shit. Hell, we do it with Reid when he makes the rookies yack. That is exponentially more dangerous than a ponytail tug. By FAR. I saw that same coach re-line an Oklahoma drill to set up a big kid to demolish a guy who'd shown up late to practice. He used the damn kid as a weapon. And again, Missouri High School Sports HoFer. And nobody every said boo about ANY of that. It's just such a nothing line to draw. There's no danger to that girl. Far less than we see from 100 different coaches in 100 different ways. There are coaches that verbally berate their players in ways that will impact them negatively FAR more than what that girl got from having her hair tugged. {shrug} I just don't see this as the strict no-fly zone others do apart from the fact that the coaching association rules almost certainly expressly disallow it. But man, we let coaches get away with WAY worse and never give it a second thought. |
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I know you're not addressing my post specifically and many are drawing that line, but for the record, I'd want him fired if he did this to a boy, too. I also don't celebrate coaches intentionally putting kids health at risk from exhaustion, either. Chiefs rookies have a whole crew of health care professionals and they are adults so I don't equate that to high school sports.
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Boy or girl doesn't matter. She's a kid and he's a grown man. No excuse.
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This feels more like a face-mask yank to me. Not a perfect analogue, for sure, but when you have that helmet on the facemask is pretty close to an appendage and there's nothing gentle about yanking a facemask. Ultimately I'm just saying that these a LOT of these girls are hard as coffin nails out there - tougher than the boys at similar ages. And I think had this coach tugged a kids dreads or had a guy with the 'sunshine' hairdo that he yanked on, folks wouldn't be as outraged. And I just think it's a distinction without a difference when it comes to the physical toughness of these girls. And again - I understand that some folks believe a coach should never touch a player. I get it. I just think it's a line that's both overly broad AND not narrowly tailored enough. It doesn't cover FAR more egregious player abuses that we hand-waive all the time and it equates something fairly benign (and yes, I see that ponytail tug as fairly benign) with something akin to a punch. I think it misses in both directions. |
I think it's very easy and appropriate to draw the line at physical violence. Full stop. Player safety issues stemming from other practice techniques is a seperate issue that should receive attention as well.
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