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Skyy God 03-20-2021 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 15595639)
One you deal with the popo , the other a nice white man who gives you an advance on the money he's going to get you.

That not how that works.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2021 06:46 PM

Wow.

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While Easterby aspires to be a transformational leader, guided by religion and morality, people who have worked alongside him in Houston have increasingly come to see him as transactional. Says a colleague: “If you combine a faith-healing televangelist with Littlefinger, you’d get Jack Easterby.”

Hammock Parties 03-20-2021 06:59 PM

LMAO what an assclown.

Yes, he sounds like the kind of dude who would find a bunch of randos to undermine Watson.

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According to two team employees, he made it so that many actions that previously did not need approval required his sign-off.

He decreed that team employees couldn’t wear sunglasses during games unless they were playing outdoors and there was discernible sun.

He wanted to look them in the eyes.

rydogg58 03-20-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15596011)
LMAO what an assclown.

Yes, he sounds like the kind of dude who would find a bunch of randos to undermine Watson.

Well, that makes going apeshit over candy wrappers in a stairwell seem almost sane in comparison.

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15595115)
Easterby is a douche. It wouldn't surprise me if he's behind all of this. It is basically impossible to sue the media and get anything out of it, and even less so the toy department (sports media).



https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex...le-daily-cover

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/16/te...y-kept-his-job

Doesn't seem like this is a McNair thing. It's an Easterby thing.

I know people are asking why would houston do this. McNair ends up worse off. But it sure feels like Easterby looks really good after all this.

eDave 03-20-2021 08:16 PM

I need blackop or someone like that to explain to me how this fits into the NFL script.

Nickhead 03-20-2021 08:20 PM

what's the word i am looking for????????????

ummm, oh yeah, isn't this conjecture termed 'extortion'? :D

Titty Meat 03-20-2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15595432)
Just wait.

This is going to open the flood gates to other players on other teams getting called out.

Buckle in.

They did it to themselves 1 for doing such actions 2 giving into the whole woke thing. What did they expect was going to happen?

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15595432)
Just wait.

This is going to open the flood gates to other players on other teams getting called out.

Buckle in.

I don't want to minimize sex crimes but it sure feels like a lot of player conduct now becomes fair game.

Hammock Parties 03-20-2021 08:43 PM

I went with my gut on Tyreek and I'm doing the same here.

Easterby is Crystal Espinal in a suit.

eDave 03-20-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15596096)
They did it to themselves 1 for doing such actions 2 giving into the whole woke thing. What did they expect was going to happen?

What does giving into the whole woke thing mean?

Hammock Parties 03-20-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15596119)
What does giving into the whole woke thing mean?

Appeasement.

To people who can't be appeased.

Eventually, someone has to be a dick about it.

cooper barrett 03-20-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15595862)
That not how that works.

You can borrow against any asset and this lawsuit looks like an asset to me. The lawyer's is getting them cash now!

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ghak99 03-21-2021 09:20 PM

We just need one of the girls to get on Stern and drop the dirt like the chick did on Baker Mayfield. There's got to be one of them out there who'll just step up and say, "The dude's a creep. I oiled his anus and we plowed for hours. I think it's normal, he does it all the time. The money was left by the door."

Bowser 03-21-2021 09:23 PM

We need to get Laremy Tunsil away from that shitshow in Houston. Save Tunsil, Verch!

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 04:38 AM

Eagles, Panthers, 49ers, Dolphins, Jets, and Broncos all still interested in trading for him.

Mile High Mania 03-22-2021 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15596090)
I need blackop or someone like that to explain to me how this fits into the NFL script.

:LOL:

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 10:27 AM

https://www.scribd.com/publisher/843...ston-Chronicle

Lawsuits compiled into an easy to read list.

ToxSocks 03-22-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597566)
https://www.scribd.com/publisher/843...ston-Chronicle

Lawsuits compiled into an easy to read list.

All these bitches are ho's, GMAFB.

"at home, private massage therapist" yeah ****ing right. Everyone knows that's code for hand job.

Deshaun ****ed up by not making them sign non-disclosures. Life lesson, Watson.

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 10:36 AM

Glanced through a few of those.

Seems to be the same thing over and over.

Watson messages masseuse to set up private session.
Watson demands to be naked during.
Watson asks them to oil his anus.
Masseuse gets upset and doesn’t comply.
Watson gets mad.
Masseuse feels scared and intimidated.

I would think there will be a pretty lengthy electronic papertrail, since he set up so much of this via text and DM.

If that comes to fruition, then he might be ****ed.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15597583)
Glanced through a few of those.

Seems to be the same thing over and over.

Watson messages masseuse to set up private session.
Watson demands to be naked during.
Watson asks them to oil his anus.
Masseuse gets upset and doesn’t comply.
Watson gets mad.
Masseuse feels scared and intimidated.

I would think there will be a pretty lengthy electronic papertrail, since he set up so much of this via text and DM.

If that comes to fruition, then he might be ****ed.

At least two that I read alleged he forced oral. A couple of these lawsuits really do seem pretty flimsy, but there's enough contained within them collectively that if it does end up going to civil trial or even being tried as a criminal case and proven to be true Watson has most likely played his last down in the NFL.

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15597569)
All these bitches are ho's, GMAFB.

"at home, private massage therapist" yeah ****ing right. Everyone knows that's code for hand job.

Deshaun ****ed up by not making them sign non-disclosures. Life lesson, Watson.

“At home, private massage therapist” obviously has a certain vibe about it...which makes Watson seem that much dumber.

The papertrail of texts and DMs are where he might be screwed in this.

The apology that was already leaked shows that something happened, but we don’t know exactly what yet.

He’s an idiot for 1) doing any of this if true or 2) trusting these women and putting any communication in writing if they’re lying.

New World Order 03-22-2021 10:42 AM

Trade for Vach and sign Tunsil!!!!

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 10:46 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExFw69cW...jpg&name=large

What in the actual ****?

TLO 03-22-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597605)

Hoo boy

ToxSocks 03-22-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597605)

How 'bout the one where he requested an anus rub? LMAO

You'd think in a city like Houston, with all that money and all that fame, and all those homies who can show you where to find snatch that will STFU, that he'd at least know where to look to buy some pussy. Shit, why he even HAS to buy pussy is beyond me.

What an idiot.

New World Order 03-22-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15597616)
Hoo boy

Hooooo boy

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15597628)
How 'bout the one where he requested an anus rub? LMAO

You'd think in a city like Houston, with all that money and all that fame, and all those homies who can show you where to find snatch that will STFU, that he'd at least know where to look to buy some pussy. Shit, why he even HAS to buy pussy is beyond me.

What an idiot.

Pattern I've noticed is all of these allegations are during the COVID quarantine period. Very well may have had a spot to go to for his "needs" before everything went haywire.

Pants 03-22-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15597628)
How 'bout the one where he requested an anus rub? LMAO

You'd think in a city like Houston, with all that money and all that fame, and all those homies who can show you where to find snatch that will STFU, that he'd at least know where to look to buy some pussy. Shit, why he even HAS to buy pussy is beyond me.

What an idiot.

He's been getting top shelf pussy throw itself at him since his freshman year in college. Eventually, everything becomes boring as you get used to it and you need new ways to get excited. I'm betting doing this sort of shit with masseuses is his. Who knows, though?

ChiefBlueCFC 03-22-2021 11:10 AM

So, are we sure Watson is gonna be in the NFL this season

RunKC 03-22-2021 11:13 AM

If this is still a thing in training camp, does Goodell place Watson on the commissioner exempt list?

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 15597647)
So, are we sure Watson is gonna be in the NFL this season

We're at California wildfire levels of smoke now. He might lose a season of his career even if he ends up being completely innocent.

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 15597647)
So, are we sure Watson is gonna be in the NFL this season

I’m not convinced he will be.

Really, he only has 2 things in his favor right now:

1. Innocent until proven guilty. Will there be enough evidence to prove his guilt?
2. The attorney. He seems unprofessional and is a bit of an attention seeker.

GoForIt 03-22-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597658)
We're at California wildfire levels of smoke now. He might lose a season of his career even if he ends up being completely innocent.

I agree. If the lawyer gets the grand jury than he is in serious hot water.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15597660)
I’m not convinced he will be.

Really, he only has 2 things in his favor right now:

1. Innocent until proven guilty. Will there be enough evidence to prove his guilt?
2. The attorney. He seems unprofessional and is a bit of an attention seeker.

There's a method to his madness regardless of what angle you think he's going for. If he's just trying to assassinate Watson's character as a favor to the Texans organization then he's already accomplished that, but if he believes Watson has committed serious crimes he's simultaneously publicizing it as much as possible while keeping the accusers as anonymous as possible. Whatever he's going for he's played his hand so far incredibly well.

louie aguiar 03-22-2021 11:26 AM

Why would Watson put himself in these positions to begin with?

kevrunner 03-22-2021 11:34 AM

I wonder if Watson ever had a male masseuse flown in. Also, expecting the “concussion” defense to be used in the not to near future.

wazu 03-22-2021 11:37 AM

Just imagine if the Texans had moved aggressively and traded Watson a few weeks ago. They are so completely screwed now in every possible way.

Mennonite 03-22-2021 11:39 AM

Has Gloria Allred shown up yet?

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15597716)
Just imagine if the Texans had moved aggressively and traded Watson a few weeks ago. They are so completely screwed now in every possible way.

To be fair, whatever trade they agreed to couldn't become official until last Wednesday and the allegations were already public by then. Doubt any team would go through with it after that point.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 11:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 4 New Lawsuits, Deshaun Watson is Accused of Forcing a Lesbian to Give Him Oral Sex, Asked For His Anus to Be Fingered, Offered $$$ For Happy Ending &amp; Wanted His Ass Ate During Session; Watson Has Denied All Accusations (Accusers&#39; Stories-Court Docs) <a href="https://t.co/Ccb1yNMIyR">https://t.co/Ccb1yNMIyR</a> <a href="https://t.co/HfQGw5Uhak">pic.twitter.com/HfQGw5Uhak</a></p>&mdash; Robert Littal BSO (@BSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/BSO/status/1374057155393941504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Beef Supreme 03-22-2021 12:29 PM

It's hard to get a good massage. A mediocre massage with a decent handjob is pretty easy to find. I don't know anything about anus oil, however.

staylor26 03-22-2021 12:30 PM

Damn seems like Watson loves butt play LMAO

TLO 03-22-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 15597824)
It's hard to get a good massage. A mediocre massage with a decent handjob is pretty easy to find. I don't know anything about anus oil, however.

What about one where you have your ass eaten?

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 12:33 PM

It’s one thing to have allegations. It’s another to have such detailed allegations that are this humiliating.

Even if nothing comes of this (which seems unlikely), Watson will still be a joke amongst fans for the rest of his career.

TLO 03-22-2021 12:33 PM

This is what happens when you let people like Cardi B make "music"

New World Order 03-22-2021 12:34 PM

Deshaun Cosby?

Beef Supreme 03-22-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15597830)
What about one where you have your ass eaten?

I think that's gotta be "by request."

You don't have to ask for the handjob, they ask you, after they have tugged on it a bit.

In my head I'm like, "lady I just wanted a good massage, my back is a disaster area and your massage game is not good." Out loud I'm like "yeah, sure."

Nobody has just started eating my ass.

ToxSocks 03-22-2021 12:38 PM

Veach and Reid knew about Deshaun's penchant for asshole passion. That's why they drafted Mahomes.

dlphg9 03-22-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15597827)
Damn seems like Watson loves butt play LMAO

Probably developed a love for it after Mahomes shoved his shit in.

Mahomes may be the catalyst for this all!

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597683)
There's a method to his madness regardless of what angle you think he's going for. If he's just trying to assassinate Watson's character as a favor to the Texans organization then he's already accomplished that, but if he believes Watson has committed serious crimes he's simultaneously publicizing it as much as possible while keeping the accusers as anonymous as possible. Whatever he's going for he's played his hand so far incredibly well.

I suppose this is true.

A more “professional” attorney may not have brought this to the forefront so quickly and so loudly.

Releasing the bits of evidence that he has (the texts) immediacy brought some level of validity to the case.

Also, he did (as Watson confirmed) offer to settle this quickly before going public.

To this attorney’s credit, he clearly lined everything up quietly. He didn’t go public until he had SEVERAL suits ready to file.

Deberg_1990 03-22-2021 12:41 PM

I don’t understand why he didn’t just pay a professional prostitute?

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 15597856)
I think that's gotta be "by request."

You don't have to ask for the handjob, they ask you, after they have tugged on it a bit.

In my head I'm like, "lady I just wanted a good massage, my back is a disaster area and your massage game is not good." Out loud I'm like "yeah, sure."

Nobody has just started eating my ass.

Posts like this make this place impossible to quit

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 12:41 PM

Dude is a menace

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Deshaun Watson lawsuit includes sexual assault allegation from March 2021 <a href="https://t.co/nndNoU4VHX">https://t.co/nndNoU4VHX</a> <a href="https://t.co/VBTXD6Wrn6">pic.twitter.com/VBTXD6Wrn6</a></p>&mdash; New York Post (@nypost) <a href="https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1374068595131568131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 03-22-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15597837)
This is what happens when you let people like Cardi B make "music"

Lol there have been much worse well before Cardi B. Ever heard of Trina?

"See I **** him in the living room
While his children home
I make him eat it while my period on"

"See if I had the chance to be a virgin again
I'd be ****ing by the time I'm ten"

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15597872)
Lol there have been much worse well before Cardi B. Ever heard of Trina?

"See I **** him in the living room
While his children home
I make him eat it while my period on"

"See if I had the chance to be a virgin again
I'd be ****ing by the time I'm ten"

People act like they don’t remember “What’s Your Fantasy?”

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 12:48 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are now 13 civil lawsuits filed against Deshaun Watson by Tony Buzbee in Harris County District Court.</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1374070108625207299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCUnited 03-22-2021 12:50 PM

This could easily develop into an Ass Action Lawsuit at this rate

chiefzilla1501 03-22-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15597834)
It’s one thing to have allegations. It’s another to have such detailed allegations that are this humiliating.

Even if nothing comes of this (which seems unlikely), Watson will still be a joke amongst fans for the rest of his career.

Yeah this is coming off as Marv Albert level. You can never listen to him the same after all that. There's still so much gray area with professions like this where sex work goes under the table. That buys a little air cover. That and acts will be tough to prove but these seem so specific to be made up. puts Watson in a tough place because he was either inbounds soliciting illegal sex work or he was out of bounds getting legal stuff.

It wouldn't bother me if Watson is destroyed over this. I just hate that this gave Easterby the biggest get out of jail free card imaginable.

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15597898)
Yeah this is coming off as Marv Albert level. You can never listen to him the same after all that. There's still so much gray area with professions like this where sex work goes under the table. That buys a little air cover. That and acts will be tough to prove but these seem so specific to be made up. puts Watson in a tough place because he was either inbounds soliciting illegal sex work or he was out of bounds getting legal stuff.

It wouldn't bother me if Watson is destroyed over this. I just hate that this gave Easterby the biggest get out of jail free card imaginable.

The allegations seem pretty consistent. If these women were all interviewed separately, then it’s hard to believe they all came up with such consistent lies. It’s possible, but unlikely.

I hear a lot of people worried about a slippery slope with this, but it seems simple to me.

1. Don’t **** hookers
2. Don’t assault women who aren’t interested
3. Only sleep with women that you REALLY trust

TEX 03-22-2021 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15597660)
I’m not convinced he will be.

Really, he only has 2 things in his favor right now:

1. Innocent until proven guilty. Will there be enough evidence to prove his guilt?
2. The attorney. He seems unprofessional and is a bit of an attention seeker.


Tony Buzbee, Watson's accuser's attornry, is an attention whore, and has that reputation throughout the city of Houston. This is not the first time he's acted unprofessional in a high profile case. That's what he does...
Watson hired, Rusty Hadin, to represent him. He specializes in high profile cases as well - especially those involving superstar athletes. When it's his turn, I'm sure he'll be pretty darn effective at doing what he does also.

ToxSocks 03-22-2021 12:58 PM

No matter what happens, Watson will never live down the butthole fetish. I mean, NTTAWW wanting your asshole licked....but it's going to be a pain in his ass for awhile. We'll see if he can take the licks and keep on coming.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 01:00 PM

Former 49ers RB Jarryd Hayne faces 14 years in prison for 2 counts of sexual assault.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 01:00 PM

Oh my. LMAO

https://youtu.be/QW6U7O_k9tI?t=54

smithandrew051 03-22-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15597920)

Holy shit. Why did NFL Films keep that in the clip?

TEX 03-22-2021 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15597914)
No matter what happens, Watson will never live down the butthole fetish. I mean, NTTAWW wanting your asshole licked....but it's going to be a pain in his ass for awhile. We'll see if he can take the licks and keep on coming.

:doh!:

Peter Gibbons 03-22-2021 01:03 PM

I wonder if Watson has the same odd smile on his face as he did watching his 24 point lead erode in an quarter? He is probably doing that air guitar thing at this very moment.

ToxSocks 03-22-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15597923)
Holy shit. Why did NFL Films keep that in the clip?

Jack Easterby made them do it.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 01:05 PM

I think Watson said activated

cooper barrett 03-22-2021 01:07 PM

????????👀Grand Jury👀?????????



Quote:

Originally Posted by GoForIt (Post 15597665)
I agree. If the lawyer gets the grand jury than he is in serious hot water.


wazu 03-22-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15597931)
I think Watson said activated

Dunno, hearing a pretty clear "s" sound in there.

wazu 03-22-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 15597934)
????????👀Grand Jury👀?????????

Yes, the lawyer is working with police on getting charges filed.

InChiefsHeaven 03-22-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15597893)
This could easily develop into an Ass Action Lawsuit at this rate

Well done sir.:clap:

ghak99 03-22-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 15597856)
I think that's gotta be "by request."

You don't have to ask for the handjob, they ask you, after they have tugged on it a bit.

In my head I'm like, "lady I just wanted a good massage, my back is a disaster area and your massage game is not good." Out loud I'm like "yeah, sure."

Nobody has just started eating my ass.

I'm starting to think you spent time in Columbia, MO during the early 00s. Those little hookers gave a terrible back massage.

Sassy Squatch 03-22-2021 01:37 PM

More serious note, Buzbee is preparing to submit affidavits from the plaintiffs in civil suits against Deshaun Watson to Houston PD. I'd imagine if a criminal case is actually opened he's going on the exempt list.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-22-2021 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15598004)
More serious note, Buzbee is preparing to submit affidavits from the plaintiffs in civil suits against Deshaun Watson to Houston PD. I'd imagine if a criminal case is actually opened he's going on the exempt list.

One of the accusers is accusing him of sexual assault. That’s a criminal charge

wazu 03-22-2021 01:56 PM

Right now the range of outcomes for Watson would seemingly fall somewhere between Ben Roethlisberger and Michael Vick.

Hammock Parties 03-22-2021 01:59 PM

Machiavelli warned us about men like Easterby.

Mennonite 03-22-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15598044)
Machiavelli warned us about men like Easterby.


Chris Rock warned us about men like Watson.

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Hammock Parties 03-22-2021 02:06 PM

I have a harder time believing this the more outlandish and specific it gets.

Something would have happened before now - certainly in Houston and more than likely in college, if he was this much of a psycho.


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