The post is about ADDICTIONS. Pay attention.

wow a flash from the past. I quit for several years. Best thing I ever did. It ended up giving me the power that I know I can quit anytime and that it is not that hard. Now I don't smoke everyday, don't feel the need to smoke everyday anymore either. Quitting although difficult at times, was a great thing.

Sometimes I wonder how rich my dad and brother would be if they didn't blow so much cheese on pot. I don't even want to know the annual # they spend.

That explains why you have no money for food.

First off, just quit if you're wanting to quit.

Secondly, though, you need to change your intake methods and habits. You're obviously being wasteful with your weed. If you're rich, who cares? You're not, though, so if you keep smoking, you need to reconsider your habits.

I think weed users are hilarious creatures of habit. You buy an oz, you smoke 7/8ths of it quickly...the last 1/8th you make last the same amount of time as the 7/8ths. If you buy a quarter, you smoke it in a week. The next week, you buy a half...you smoke it in the same amount of time. If you are low on cash, you can stretch weed out for days. You smoke the kief from your grinder, you scrape the resin from your pipes...it's disgusting.

Weed use is different than food in that...when I buy enough groceries to last a month, I still eat the same amount of meals a day. When you buy enough weed to last a month...you smoke all of that shit in a week and a half.

Glad I never picked that shit up.

I will admit that I don't know the effects of smoking weed...never tried it.
But there is some interesting reading in these posts that suggest that smoking it does have ill effects (as some of you have described) and is not a miracle drug like the pot head Bump says it is. Base on your postings it IS addictive and you can't quit it very easy.

Hey Chief Roundup,

Good stuff man. What are some of the benefits you are experiencing from quitting? If you don't mind me asking.

I'm an occasional pot smoker myself (I.e., 1 joint a week that's it) I want to give this up though entirely and be clean. Is there any advice you could offer on what I could do that may help? I hangout with people that do it. I think that poses itself to be a problem surrounding myself with people who do drugs because every time Im around them I feel like Im in a situation where Im battling temptation.

I don't want to do it but I kinda do. I wanna do it to blend in with the social scenery and I don't want to do it because well unfortunately I have depression and I know that by doing any drug doesn't matter what it is, is an example of me not treating my condition to the best of my ability. And that is why I feel guilty every time I do it. That's the thing.

The real conflict is, I have a condition and have a social circle/network of friends which is useful in helping me cope with my condition but they do drugs which doesn't help me with my condition. It's almost like its counterproductive thats the thing. These folks aren't bad dudes. They just happen to smoke pot and lots of it. Do I turn around and distance myself from these folks and cut off my social network? But then, I'd be lonely and wouldn't have many people to talk to which would make my condition worse that way. But, it would make it easier for me to quit! Or, do I continue to hangout with them and find a way to muster up that courage, strength and just say no every time they engage in it? That's something Im struggling with now.

Its just not having that strength, will and courage to say no and always giving into the temptation.

What a difference the passage of time makes. I can remember when some people were sentenced to 20 years in federal prison for having ONE joint in their possession. I'm not sure if the weed made you paranoid or the draconian laws we had at the time. Now I can legally grow a plant in my home for my own consumption. (Colorado)

Are you smoking with your friends a lot? Do they at least pitch in? What is your munchies bill?
Next time you want to load a bowl load it up then set it down and go for a walk, whatever you may enjoy, or even walk to drive to the store to get a soda or a .25 cent piece of candy to kill some time.

The most entertaining thing about my Facebook news feed is observing which of my friends just got done firing up. Really, you're worried about the extinction rate of the white lion at 10:45 pm on a Wednesday night?

It's really pretty simple. If you don't want to smoke, then don't. I hang out with people who smoke too and when they smoke I just say no thanks. If they're really your friends, they will respect you for saying no. If they give you shit about it, then they're not really your friends

Yea you are definitely smoking way too much.

Put your blunt wraps, pipes, bongs away, and get yourself a nice one hitter and dugout.

I have found using the one hitter gets me just as high (as long as its cleaned out nice and good and you can get monster rips off of it) using FAR less bud.

Sure, everyone likes a blunt now and then, but when you are blowing that much green on green, something's gotta give.

Spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

Well,

He is right. Smoking does have some ill effects, though addiction rate is on par of something like milk or cheeseburgers.

The benefits of smoking far outweigh the side effects, especially once you consider the fact that the legal implications are changing in favor of the people and not the prison lobby. You could also argue higher quality buds, vaping, and general knowledge about it has a hand in decreasing side effects from smoking.

Yeah, smoking a blunt with the high dollar stuff is a waste. Blunts are for ditch weed

A person would have to be high to take anything Bump posts seriously.

If the standard you're measuring pot against is "miracle drug with no ill effects", of course it's going to fail. But that's not really a very reasonable standard, particularly when comparisons to the legal vices of tobacco and alcohol are readily available.

I was referring to his comment about it being addictive and not being able to quit

I cant say I don't do it, but I usually make it last a couple of sessions, and I know some of its going to waste.

There were a lot of benefits. I slept better, had more energy, wanted to get out even more than I already do, had more money to do things with. I seemed to enjoy most things, food, more than before.
I think a lot of it was more that I wanted to quit and I did so I felt good about myself for accomplishing that step. It was a confidence self building thing IMO. I can tell you that I feel many of those same things again now. I quit smoking cigarettes on 3/4/13. I am very proud of the fact that I have defeated cigarettes. You know what it was easy too. My mind was ready before my body was. When you mind is ready for the change you desire it will happen easily.
"What one man can do, another can do".

If a person consumes large amounts of most any substances short of air and water they are going to become addicted in one form or fashion. Each person has there own abilities when it comes to self control.

I haven't ever smoked one with the killer. Like I said earlier, a 1/4 of dro lasts me a good 3 weeks or more. You can only get so high

Amateur

LMAO

Go out and take a 5 mile bike ride or do a cardio workout like Insanity. You will feel High for sure.

true....good luck with kicking that horrible habit.
Be strong

This. I've been one of the nonsmokers in my social circle for going on 15 years, and they smoke a LOT of pot. If it helps you to not feel awkward, just tell people it's started making you paranoid or have anxiety attacks (true for me) or that you're allergic to the smoke (also true for me). People usually understand that and won't bother you about it.

To me quitting chew is far more harder than MJ. Cigs being the hardest of all. Never thought MJ was addictive, but to a lot of people it is.
I give anything to stop smoking cigs again
Drinking well that's another ballgame kills a lot of people I don't drink often but when I do I feel like I have to be the last man standing close to death several times.

good luck on quitting you will feel better and save some money also YOU Can DO IT!!!!

really....you claim it is not addictive and can be quit?
I will agree marginally, maybe you can quit and maybe you aren't addicted, but I doubt it. The orginal post plus other comments suggest that it IS addictive and IS hard to quit.

Your comment did nothing to counter the remark as your comment is often used by someone who cannot quit and is addicted.

I was a cope rep for years quitting was incredibly hard, I did not pay for it.

Man I miss a fresh can of Cope.

My old man gave me advise that sounds stupid but it works, Just don't think about it.

When ever you feel you mind drifting to it think about something else.

Completely move your attention completely engaging and if you really want to quit you will.

It's hard but it works, haven't had a dip in about 5 years.

Is masturbation addictive? Looking at pornography? Sex? exercise? sugar?

Here's the deal (as I said earlier): just about anything can be psychologically "addictive" if it makes one feel good or helps relieve stress. People's brain chemistry and backgrounds are all different as well. One never knows what habit or substance is going to "stick" with a given person. For some, yes, pot becomes an addiction. It is not a physically addictive substance in the same way that opiates or alcohol are, though.

funny how there are so many non smoking pot experts...

LMAO

Over the years I have stopped smoking for months at a time and have never had a hard time doing so. I smoke because I like it and it helps with the joint pain I suffer from not because I'm addicted to it. I'd much rather take a hit than eat a bunch of pain pills which do a lot more damage than good

Studies have shown time and time again that addiction rate to MJ is EXTREMELY low.

You can be mentally addicted to ANYTHING. But MJ does not cause physical dependence.

That's not accurate at all. I know it may seem that way from these last few posts, but again, it's a mental thing and it's kind of hard to understand if you haven't experienced it.

Quitting an addiction to weed is much more like quitting an addiction to fast food.

There aren't any physical side effects to not smoking. I smoked a blunt last night and here i am at work just fine. No craving whatsoever. It's not like i feel the need to go out back and toke. When people say they "crave" it they don't mean it like, "OMG i have to have it", it's more akin to craving a bag of chips.

Think of it like this:

"Man, i'm having fun playing CoD. But I'd have even MORE fun if i were playing CoD....on weed". Hence the "crave".

It's NOTHING like fighting alcoholism or nicotine addiction. Not even close. It's much more like fighting your addiction to coffee every morning.

You're simply use to it and would rather have it than not.

Often times people who struggle to find that willpower are suffering from something else, like depression. Kinda like...you know....breaking up with your GF (buck).

This is spot on if you were a pothead. If you were the kinda guy who smoked every day for years, this is exactly how one would feel. I know exactly what you're talking about.

But in the case of Bricks who claims he only smokes a joint a week....he won't experience this at all.

Well, we're all telling you that you're misunderstanding what these posters are saying. Clearly you've come into this thread wanting to believe whatever preconceived notion you have.

If you want to run around in life believing that, that's on you.

Like i said, being addicted to weed is like being addicted to a cup of coffee.

There have also been several posts from people who had little or no trouble stopping. It seems like you are putting more stock in the posts that tell you what you want to hear than those that don't. The truth seems to be that different people have different reactions.

I literally broke up with her yesterday. That's not it. I have IBS....if I don't smoke, I shit my guts out every day. My actual real life physician recommended me for medical marijuana. The side effects of my medicine are that I feel really happy, so I smoke more than is recommended for my issue.

That's nasty.

So the issue is that you smoke TOO much and spend TOO much money?

Then go buy bong.

If you're smoking nothing but blunts then it's no wonder you're smoking a hole through your pocket. I can't stand blunts. They stink, taste bad and you use waaaay more weed.

Smoking that much weed in that amount of time is inconceivable to me. I smoke a bowl or two a night out of my bong and im good for the night.

I find addiction to be very interesting.

I think all drugs are addicting but its important to distguish between the different types of addictions.

Imo, addiction really comes down to either physical dependence and/or psychological dependence on the drug itself. Some drugs will make you more physically dependent than others because of the withdrawl symptoms that they have to offer.

Like for example, quitting heroine may cause people to experience convulsions, vomitting, cramps, etc...So, in order to avoid these symptoms, people will revert back to using the drug and thus becoming more physically addicted to it that way.

In the case of weed, I don't think it has withdrawl symptoms/effects to the extent of other drugs. The reason why it seems addicting probably has to due more with psychological dependence. People may engage in the drug in order to satisfy those intense mental and emotional craving for the drug.

I honestly can't tell if this is a serious post. I thought you didn't smoke weed? I can honestly recall you saying in other weed threads you claimed to not smoke weed.

Blunts are stupid and wasteful... I rarely smoke joints due to the waste. I get high 2-3 times a week... depending on which part of the country I'm in, I'll go many days at a time without, as I never travel with it. I get a lot of creative work done when high... helps me use different parts of my brain. I don't waste much time when I'm high, either. Also, I could go months without it and it not be a problem.

I do now, prefer the pen vapes with the hash oil in it... it's a much cleaner high and I am highly functional. Especially when you can state that you want the Sativa strain which is more cerebral. I rarely smoke Indica as it makes me tired and feel worthless.

If you are smoking too much, definitely get a one-hitter.

okay....I am not going to argue with you about whether smoking dope it is or isn't addictive. I only commented that several users posted comments that they were addicted and had difficulty quitting.

Detoxing claims it is like coffee....ok then.

addicition is in the eye of the addicted...I get it.

Coffee is actually a bad analogy. Caffeine withdrawal has very real physical side effects. Weed has no true physical withdrawal, though psychological/emotional symptoms may be possible.

From a really good book on the subject:

When I quit my daily 2-3 Mountain Dew intake... I crashed for like 2 days and had the worst headache of my life. Now, i drink unsweetened ice tea for caffeine.

If I have one Mountain Dew, I'm sure I'd fall off the wagon... that was a hard addiction to curtail for me.

Post. Repost. Don't care. Always funny.

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More from the book:

I've taken a few log breaks. Or I might have been high and trolling like I looked down upon smokers.

I try to take a log break every morning after my coffee. Usually it is very rewarding but I have to use the crapper down the hall from my office because I'm not a pig. I don't shit where I roost.

Yeah he is such a light smoker that IF he notices anything it would be minimal.

I don't get it. I have a very addictive personality and genetics yet when I want to quit smoking weed I just quit. Don't miss it, don't care, but I absolutely replace it with something else. Sobriety is not something I have ever enjoyed. Even as a child I struggled with it, even though I had no idea what getting ****ed up was like. The second I started smoking weed at age 16, I've never looked back. People can call it sad, wrong, or whatever they want. I function at a much better pace when I am inebriated on some substance. Sobriety is a state of mind. We absolutely do not fully understand the function, and processes of the human brain. Apparently there is a misfire somewhere, because I am at my very best under the influence of some mind altering substance. I used to be ashamed of it, but why on Earth would I give the power of my self worth to a bunch of judgmental, ignorant, assholes?



Yeah, me too. I quit for almost an entire year until about a month ago. I started back up and was just fine. Better than ever, even. The best thing I did was went out and spent a hundo on a nice glass bong. My weed lasts longer, and the high is much more enjoyable than smoking through the pipe I used too have.

Yeah, see my above statement. In my business it's funny watching people blow through money smoking chron that costs $100 a 1/4 or more because they make so much money it doesn't matter to them. I'll smoke theirs that way, but not mine. The bill I dropped on my bong has paid itself off already, and I don't even smoke nearly as much as I used too. Hell, I don't even smoke every day anymore, and I used too be a HUGE stoner.


Have her give it a shot again. If she's like me, she'll be just fine and happy she did. :bong:

The thing I notice the most is, the day after I smoke I feel lazy. I feel as if it destroys ambition. I just wanna lay back on my couch, chill and do nothing.

I procrastinate more when I smoke weed. I find it slows me down as far as getting things done.

Then I get backed up and can't get things done according to my original plan or schedule. It gets kinda irritable like that I guess?

*I can dig smoking it on a Saturday night because then that means the following day it's laying on the couch watching football and monching on pizza, chips and pop all day lol. But the rest of the week, I don't prefer to do it because I want to be consistent with my schedule.

Yeah, it can absolutely be a motivation killer. But that's more for the every day smoker than the occasional user. I love it during the week nights every now and then because I struggle with falling and staying asleep. If I smoke a little bit, I'll get a deeper, better sleep. I may feel a little groggy still in the morning, but it's nothing like a booze hangover and it's worth it to me.

The weekends are ideal though; just hang out and drink with our friends and smoke a little bit. Then wake up on Sunday morning and make a big breakfast and watch football all day.

No motivation needed. Besides the cooking breakfast part.

I have a vaporizer that I haven't been using because it's more convenient to just smoke. I know back when I used it, I got about 4x as much out of my weed. So I'm gonna start using it again, and see how long this quarter lasts. But I'm not spending any more money on marijuana unless I get my finances under control.

As pot becomes legal in more and more states I'd like to do two things. First I'd like my own morning radio show 'Wake and Bake in the morning with PhilFree'. And second I'd like my own show on the food network. Maybe a late night cooking show 'Munchies-Cooking with Stoners'.

Is the world ready yet?

Arent you from SD?

Just move onto coke/yay. It' seems to be everywhere in SD and LA lately. Everywhere I go plates or mirrors are being passed around. All the potheads I know who smoked heavily for yeaars...moved onto yay. It's alot easier/cleaner to do too. Seems like every club bathroom I go there's always a group passing around a bullet or you can hear the sniffles in the bathroom stalls.

Thats insane. Id never pay that much regardless of the situation and how bad i needed it.

Man I want a volcano vapo so bad. Not in the cards at the moment to be just spending 400-500bux.

Im gonna get one because a 1/4 would last me prob 6 weeks.

There are options below the Volcano. I'm a big fan of my Silver Surfer.

I quit smoking cigarettes on the first try after 13 years. Quit smoking MJ after 14 years on the first try.

I'm still a fat ass. Several attempts to lose the weight and was successful but put it back on.

So I obviously have the will power but just like eating pizza, burgers etc. I think that if you want to, a person can beat any addition. Not easily but doable. Its just usually damn hard to do. And you really have to want it.

My friends dislike the whole bag thing.

Yeah my friends like it and Da Budha as well. They've all gotten rid of their volcanos because of the bags.

Yep - Da Buddha is basically the same thing as the SSV in terms of the function (and is made by the same company). The thing that I like about the SSV is that it's angled so that your herb doesn't fall out as easily when you use it.

I'm sure the bags are great, but I've always thought that would be weird too.

Some of them are carrying the little portable vapes as well. It's crazy. They'll sit in a completely public place and vape. With so many people doing e-cigs, law enforcement can't really distinguish between them.

I was wondering of there were any vapes that look like the e cigs or if I could just buy a juice with THC in it and put it in my e cig (which in own but don't use anymore).

For now I'm using an MFLB.

I thought you liked lifting weights and working out? Do you find you can smoke, and still be productive in and out of the gym? Replace the MJ with a love of lifting and change who you are. Not easily done but CAN be done. The "high" I get from lifting feels pretty damn good and yes, this coming from someone who has smoked.

I did post this further back in the thread, but I'm still lifting, that's not an issue. I even take one small hit usually before going. It doesn't get me high at all with my built up tolerance, just gives me a good focus.

A 215 shop will have everything you can think of. If they don't have what you're looking for then produce it and profit.

Yes. There are portable vapes that do look like e cigs. In California waxes are more popular than oils.

Yeah, it was trippy as **** seeing myself post about starting to smoke cigarettes in 2006. I knew I was being reeruned when I started and everyone else was saying as much and yet... I still did it. LMAO

i say free the weed.


good luck man.

D Bowe?

There's just certain things I can't do without getting blasted.

I hate working outside, for example. I can pop on the headphones, put on some Sabbath, take a toke and actually have fun mowing the yard.

Last Saturday, I raked leaves, picked 20 bushels of apples BY HAND, cut some limbs, AND winterized my koi pond.

I wouldn't have done any of those things sober.

More power to ya.

When i smoke it's much more like this:

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It's a double-edged sword for me. If I have mental work to do, I can't smoke beforehand. Smoking on a work night is bad because I just can't think right the next morning. There's certain video games I just can't play because of the mental aspect of it.

But as I explained in my previous post, it has the exact opposite effect when it comes to "chores". I can get high and actually enjoy fixing the goddamn toilet...

This
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ROFL

I'm not suggesting my work is QUALITY. My wife thought it was funny when I was out there picking apples and 1 out of every 3 fell on my ****ing head. But it got done and that's the bottom line. :D