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Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:02 PM

Our dining room is very long and narrow, so we've got a sitting area at one end, shown here.

It's too bad that I got some glare, because the picture over the fireplace is way cool. It's an 1880s hand-colored print of a renaissance-era court scene. We put an emphasis light in the ceiling, so if you shut off all the lights and then shine that one on the painting, it's awesome.

The sconce lights are original, but the cherubs beneath them were our addition. The one on the right has not yet been put up, because I had a nail problem.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:04 PM

If you're sitting in the dining room sitting area, you can now see into the kitchen. This archway didn't exist before the remodel. We closed off an existing door on the other side of the room and added this arch so we could put in the breakfast peninsula.

Please pardon the paint cans in the window, as we're still getting the final touchups done.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:08 PM

Our kitchen is actually not that large. We went with semi-custom cherry cabinets and granite countertops, the latter of which will be shown in an upcoming closeup.

Our big decision was whether to go with one level of upper cabinets or two, putting the display level at the top. I'm glad we put the extra level in.

Our appliances are relatively basic, because we couldn't justify a need for the fancy ones. We don't do a lot of really involved stuff in the kitchen.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:12 PM

Here's the kitchen from the other direction. The doorway on the left goes down to the basement, and the doorway on the right is the old maid's stairs going to the second floor.

We put a 32" HDTV up on the wall. The HD box is underneath it, and we're still missing a little cabinet for it to go in, so that part looks a little rough right now.

I can't remember the term for the paint, but it's a two-tone layered paint. It looks pretty good in person, but it doesn't photograph well at all.

SPchief 12-20-2006 05:14 PM

Finally we get to see the kitchen.

Phobia 12-20-2006 05:15 PM

I like what they did. It looks like some quality work. I hope it will bring you many, many years of enjoyment. I'll bet you're incredibly happy to have the construction over with.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:19 PM

The granite is cool, even if I did have to battle the forces of evil to get it. It's an exotic Brazilian variegated material, and it's got tons of color. Some parts of it include a translucent black quartz that's really cool - kind of three-dimensional.

DaFace 12-20-2006 05:21 PM

Any pics of the infamous backsplashes?

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:23 PM

Here's a bigger view of the granite. The small picture doesn't quite do it justice.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:26 PM

Backsplashes coming up. We went with an irregular backsplash to give the kitchen that rugged Colorado look. If you look closely, you'll see a few spots on them that are almost perfectly round, and that's where the dynamite was inserted to get the granite quarried.

I also show the lights lit up on the display cabinets, and the itty-bitty chandeliers that hang over our breakfast bar.

Phobia 12-20-2006 05:27 PM

That bubblegum machine really makes that granite pop. Nice.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:31 PM

Last but not least, we did a lot of landscaping as part of this project, too, adding a patio and doing a lot of xeriscaping. This photo shows part of the patio. That's my wife at the garage door.

We got the front yard plants installed, but weren't able to get the back yard plants installed in time, so the back yard is a little bare right now. Also, we have to completely tear down and replace a two-story deck on the back of the house, and haven't even got any bids on that yet. It'll probably end up being a Spring project, which is a bummer.

Behind the barbecue is The Rock of Lies and Deception.

Hammock Parties 12-20-2006 05:32 PM

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Is that good or bad? I've never played it.

It's good. Myst is full of pretty architecture.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
That bubblegum machine really makes that granite pop. Nice.

Sometimes it's the accessories that really finish the look, wouldn't you agree?

SPchief 12-20-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Behind the barbecue is The Rock of Lies and Deception.



Where is it? I don't see it. WHERE IS THE GIANT BOULDER

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I like what they did. It looks like some quality work. I hope it will bring you many, many years of enjoyment. I'll bet you're incredibly happy to have the construction over with.

Thanks. We're very happy with it. The contractor was very quality-conscious, which is important since my wife has pretty discriminating tastes.

Overall, I would give the following grades:

A+ - Cabinetmakers. Did a great job, kept their promised price, and were flexible when we ran into a couple of design problems. It might go down to an A if we don't get that last little cabinet soon, but overall they were great.

A - Drywallers. This was the area that made us nervous, because the drywallers on our last big remodel were really, really bad. These guys were great - very neat and very high quality.

A- - General contractor. Would've been an A, except they ran way behind schedule and were very tardy in giving us pricing on change orders.

C - Electricians. Decent work, but they were very messy and made every hole slightly to big to cover without a drywall repair. The contractor handled that, though.

N/A - Plumbers - Work got done, and the general contractor handled all of it. I guess it was fine, but don't know.

D - HVAC/Sheet Metal guys - Got partway through the job and then left for a month. As a result, I think we may have ended up with a chemical stain on our brick, because they didn't get the outside gutter put up for months. This is bad.

D - Architect - I've told this story before. In the last weeks of the project, she corrected a problem with some materials she recommended without fighting us, so it brought her up from an F. Also, she recommended the general contractor and cabinet firm.

F - Never finished the job, and demanded final payment. We gave them all but $1,000 and told them we'd pay the rest when they finished it up. They kept demanding payment, and we finally hired someone else to finish the work, which cost us $1,400. (Actually, we decided not to do the whole thing, but that was the bid.) They kept sending us threatening letters, and even threatened to put a lien on the house. We finally informed them that they owed us $400 and demanded payment, and they stopped messing with us.

F - Granite company - I hope they rot in hell.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief
Where is it? I don't see it. WHERE IS THE GIANT BOULDER

:banghead:

See the landscaper grade.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:49 PM

Last but not least, here's the cat door. It's a double-door, and is very nice. I forgot to take a picture of the little tiny flight of stairs that leads up to it, because it's about five feet above the basement floor.

One of our cats loves it, and the other one can't seem to figure out how it works.

Above the door is the stuff that looks like a chemical stain. The contractor added the drain to the third-floor balcony, and then the sheet metal guys took almost three months to come and add the gutters, despite our constant reminding. Meanwhile, they did the waterproofing of the balcony, and my theory is that some of the chemicals went down the drain and stained the brick. We're really not very happy about it.

Phobia, what would you do in this situation as the contractor? I don't want to ask them to do some sort of bleach or anything else that could damage the brick, but it'd sure be nice to not have that stain.

The foreman's theory is that the brick just got soaked when water went down the drain, and he said that it would eventually dry out. However, it's been a month or more now since the gutter was installed and it's not any better.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 05:51 PM

Ta-daaaaaa! (Takes a bow.)

That's it. I'm very pleased and proud of how it's turned out.

Phobia 12-20-2006 06:13 PM

I'm guessing a very light power wash will clean that brick. You can pick up a very cheap power washer for under $100 at any home improvement center or you can hire a reputable professional. It shouldn't cost too much since it's a fairly small area.

2112 12-20-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Last but not least, we did a lot of landscaping as part of this project, too, adding a patio and doing a lot of xeriscaping. This photo shows part of the patio. That's my wife at the garage door.

We got the front yard plants installed, but weren't able to get the back yard plants installed in time, so the back yard is a little bare right now. Also, we have to completely tear down and replace a two-story deck on the back of the house, and haven't even got any bids on that yet. It'll probably end up being a Spring project, which is a bummer.

Behind the barbecue is The Rock of Lies and Deception.

My company
http://www.growing-concern.com/

PM me if you ever want landscaping advice..I don't know about pricing out there in Colorado..but I do know specs..

chefsos 12-20-2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bill parcells
My company
http://www.growing-concern.com/

PM me if you ever want landscaping advice..I don't know about pricing out there in Colorado..but I do know specs..

I don't know, but if I were him, I'd be more interested in your snow removal sevices right about now. Those plows ain't getting much done here in the east anyway...

rad 12-20-2006 06:44 PM

F - Granite company - I hope they rot in hell.

Why you hatin' on the granite company?

2112 12-20-2006 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chefsos
I don't know, but if I were him, I'd be more interested in your snow removal sevices right about now. Those plows ain't getting much done here in the east anyway...

Lets keep it that way....I only want snow after the super bowl is over;)

DaFace 12-20-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rad
F - Granite company - I hope they rot in hell.

Why you hatin' on the granite company?

Read this thread starting with post #153.

rad 12-20-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace
Read this thread starting with post #153.

:banghead:

That's what I get for not reading back far enough.

Thanks.

Nice backsplashes, Rainman.

BucEyedPea 12-20-2006 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
I can't remember the term for the paint, but it's a two-tone layered paint. It looks pretty good in person, but it doesn't photograph well at all.

Would it be any of these:

• Sponging on/Sponging off

• Ragging on/Ragging off

• Frottage

Colorwashing is three colors

Love the kitchen!!!

Rain Man 12-20-2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea
Would it be any of these:

• Sponging on/Sponging off

• Ragging on/Ragging off

• Frottage

Colorwashing is three colors

Love the kitchen!!!

Ragging, I think. I know that we painted it one solid color, and then my wife went back with a different color and kind of smeared it on with a rag.

And thanks. We like it.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rad
:banghead:

That's what I get for not reading back far enough.

Thanks.

Nice backsplashes, Rainman.


We love the backsplashes, despite the problems. The house is now officially our Fortress of Solitude.

Hammock Parties 12-20-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
The house is now officially our Fortress of Solitude.

But, aren't there two of you? Also, does your house come with instructional crystals?

Phobia 12-20-2006 09:13 PM

There are aren't there are two of them. If I understood correctly.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 09:13 PM

Fortress of Duality?

stevieray 12-20-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Ragging, I think. I know that we painted it one solid color, and then my wife went back with a different color and kind of smeared it on with a rag.

And thanks. We like it.

faux painting....and yes, I can confirm that these pictures of Kevins house are legitimate....even down to the old salmon tv room.

speaking of faux, your entry, living room and dining area is crying for a one color wash..

nice job though...congrats to you and the mr's...it's a great house.

Rain Man 12-20-2006 09:22 PM

Faux! That's what my wife was calling it.

Oucho Cinco 12-20-2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Yeah. I've obsessed over this all afternoon because I'm so ragingly angrily furiously annoyed, and there were four screwups. The first was not giving me complete pricing in the first place. The second was acting like they didn't screw up in the first place. The third was not correcting the order. The fourth was not acknowledging that they didn't correct the order. If they made a mistake and it costs me more, I can deal with that as long as I'm convinced that it was an honest mistake. The part that continues to chafe me is the fact that they still can't get the order right, and are still unapologetic about it.

Backcharge them for the time you spent attempting to correct their error. Be sure to make it more than the $445 that they want. Then after they refuse to make things right, find a lawyer and sue them for the total price of the granite and installation.

After the charge is placed on your credit card, dispute the charge as it is bogus.

wilas101 12-20-2006 10:11 PM

The place looks great RM. Glad it worked out well.

Chief Pote 12-21-2006 10:56 AM

Wow Rainman....very nice house and congrats on staying sane throughout the process. Thanks for sharing.

cdcox 12-21-2006 11:59 AM

It all came out very nice. You guys do a good job of mixing the traditional with the eclectic. Makes for an interesting house. And yes, thanks for sharing. Would love to see before and after pics of any other remodels people are doing.

Fat Elvis 12-21-2006 12:04 PM

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At some point, we'll do the big-screen TV in this room, but I'm in no hurry at the moment.

Here's some art in the back of the room, a painting by a fun local artist and a symbolic representation of our cats leaping onto their cat tree.

Curtainrods from Target? We have some just like those in Antique Bronze from Target....

Rain Man 12-21-2006 06:56 PM

Thanks for the compliments, everyone. We're pleased with it, and as cdcox said, we're happy with how we managed to marry the tradition of the home with some other things that were a little more avant garde.

And yeah, Fat Elvis, I think most or all of the second-floor curtain rods are from Target. We liked their stuff better than the stuff we had seen at the curtain store, and it was about a third of the price.

I must say, though, that I'm a particularly big fan of the "curtain rod" on the third floor (Post 264 - barely visible). I don't know where the wife bought it, but it's essentially a wire with some chrome holders. The rings that hold the curtains clip onto the curtains, so it's easy to use and it looks really cool.

patteeu 12-22-2006 10:46 AM

I really like what you did, Rain Man! Those multi-colored lights are way cool, but the kitchen is the best! Everything looks like it turned out real well.

stevieray 12-22-2006 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
It all came out very nice. You guys do a good job of mixing the traditional with the eclectic. Makes for an interesting house. And yes, thanks for sharing. Would love to see before and after pics of any other remodels people are doing.

yup, an old and new mix never goes out of style.

they also have a good and diverse collection of original artwork, which never hurts.

NewChief 12-22-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
It all came out very nice. You guys do a good job of mixing the traditional with the eclectic. Makes for an interesting house. And yes, thanks for sharing. Would love to see before and after pics of any other remodels people are doing.

I've got a pretty massive DIY bathroom remodel going on at the moment. I took before pictures and process pics. The after probably won't be for another month or so. Once they're all done, I'll post them up. That is, if my wife doesn't kill me before I get finished.

Phobia 12-22-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I've got a pretty massive DIY bathroom remodel going on at the moment. I took before pictures and process pics. The after probably won't be for another month or so. Once they're all done, I'll post them up. That is, if my wife doesn't kill me before I get finished.

Since August I've been doing my entire house. Seriously. I've done 3 bathrooms and a minor remodel (more like an updating) on our small kitchen. I did a total overhaul of the big kitchen and the master bathroom. I'm 75% done with the big kitchen and I should have the master bathroom complete before the end of the year. You guys wouldn't believe the before and after pics on this house.

NewChief 12-22-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Since August I've been doing my entire house. Seriously. I've done 3 bathrooms and a minor remodel (more like an updating) on our small kitchen. I did a total overhaul of the big kitchen and the master bathroom. I'm 75% done with the big kitchen and I should have the master bathroom complete before the end of the year. You guys wouldn't believe the before and after pics on this house.

I just wish I had more time to work on it. Whenever I get a full, uninterrupted day to get stuff done, I get a lot done. Unfortunately, during the Fall, those days are few and far between. Thankfully I should have some days coming up after the New Years.

Anyway, the before and after on mine will be dramatic. The DURING pictures will be the most dramatic, though. Nothing like demolishing a whole bathroom, including ripping up the subfloor, to show dramatic change.

Rain Man 12-22-2006 12:27 PM

I'd be interested in seeing any before and after pictures on either project.

NewChief 12-22-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
I'd be interested in seeing any before and after pictures on either project.

I could put up some before and during pictures, but after seeing all the anticipation yours started and the resulting pressure, I'm going to hold off. My wife is enough pressure. The last thing I need right now is to wake up every morning for my morning coffee/Planet perusal and find my "home renovation" thread bumped yet again with people saying, "ANY PROGRESS YET?>!"

Rain Man 12-22-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I could put up some before and during pictures, but after seeing all the anticipation yours started and the resulting pressure, I'm going to hold off. My wife is enough pressure. The last thing I need right now is to wake up every morning for my morning coffee/Planet perusal and find my "home renovation" thread bumped yet again with people saying, "ANY PROGRESS YET?>!"

How are those 'before' pictures coming along? Any updates for us?

Phobia 12-22-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I just wish I had more time to work on it. Whenever I get a full, uninterrupted day to get stuff done, I get a lot done. Unfortunately, during the Fall, those days are few and far between. Thankfully I should have some days coming up after the New Years.

Anyway, the before and after on mine will be dramatic. The DURING pictures will be the most dramatic, though. Nothing like demolishing a whole bathroom, including ripping up the subfloor, to show dramatic change.

I have plenty of time, I sometimes have trouble getting motivated to do this stuff by my lonesome. I'm used to having guys working with me and kinda directing traffic. For my own home, I can't really afford the help so I've taken several months off to do it myself. Sometimes I'll get up and not get a whole lot done in a day - that gets pretty frustrating for everybody. I work a lot better on a team.

ptlyon 12-22-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I have plenty of time, I sometimes have trouble getting motivated to do this stuff by my lonesome. I'm used to having guys working with me and kinda directing traffic. For my own home, I can't really afford the help so I've taken several months off to do it myself. Sometimes I'll get up and not get a whole lot done in a day - that gets pretty frustrating for everybody. I work a lot better on a team.

"Phobia - get me some more coffee."

"Phobia - peel me a grape."

"Phobia - hit the ****ing grey thing in the middle."

patteeu 12-22-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I could put up some before and during pictures, but after seeing all the anticipation yours started and the resulting pressure, I'm going to hold off. My wife is enough pressure. The last thing I need right now is to wake up every morning for my morning coffee/Planet perusal and find my "home renovation" thread bumped yet again with people saying, "ANY PROGRESS YET?>!"

LOL You'll never make it to Rain-Man-like internet legend status if you can't take the pressure from your fans. :p

NewChief 12-22-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I have plenty of time, I sometimes have trouble getting motivated to do this stuff by my lonesome. I'm used to having guys working with me and kinda directing traffic. For my own home, I can't really afford the help so I've taken several months off to do it myself. Sometimes I'll get up and not get a whole lot done in a day - that gets pretty frustrating for everybody. I work a lot better on a team.

I know that feeling as well. I also have a lot more confidence when I have someone there to just nod their head and say, "Yeah, that'll work." I usually know what needs to be done, and I have a good idea of how to do it, but sometimes it just helps to have someone else there to affirm it. Luckily, I have two brothers in construction that have helped out some. I also have a best friend who has a house, and we do swap days on our houses.

ptlyon 12-22-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I also have a best friend who has a house, and we do swap days on our houses.

Swingin Baby!

NewChief 12-22-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon
Swingin Baby!

Houses, not wives... though now that you mention it his is pretty hot :hmmm:

(just kidding, honey, if this is one of those days you're reading the Planet instead of working).


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