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HolmeZz 01-14-2009 05:47 PM

I got the impression that Herm will probably be gone.

rad 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

Thum gone?

Is that what that meant?

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

What was the question asked when Clark answered "that's confidential?"

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5391034)
I think the Hunt's and the Kraft's are in the Mason's Guild together.

Illuminati!!!!!!!!!!!!

dirk digler 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

It is kind of surprising that Thum hasn't been given the go ahead on the Financial side of the business

ArrowheadHawk 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391042)
What was the question asked when Clark answered "that's confidential?"

He was asked about the Team President position.

Otter 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5391031)
I would guess that he is going to part with Herm, but not any time soon. Maybe two weeks?

He just wants to talk to him now that he's official and say "thanks but no thanks, good luck, may the wind be at your back" and so on and so forth.

I'm guessing by Friday. He already knows who his head coach is and he'll want to start putting together a coaching team.

teedubya 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

JIZZ IN MY PANTS

Rain Man 01-14-2009 05:50 PM

It'd be cool if he would enter in full Native American garb, holding two scalps that are purported to be from Carl and Herm. He could throw them into the press area and then say, "Any questions?"

Chief Pote 01-14-2009 05:51 PM

It's just a matter of time before Pioli understands that CP runs the Chiefs. After all, if not for CP his ass would still be in New England. You better recognize.......Mr. Pioli!

bowener 01-14-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5391019)
I wonder what the ETA on his first firing is. Be it Herm or anybody else.

I am imaging a blanket firing. Probably a memo or something...maybe a principal type thing over the speakers in the building:

"Would Herm Edwards, Gun, LJ, DMac, all position coaches, all trainers, **** it, everybody who was hired by Carl, please come to the GM's office immediately. Please bring the contents of your desks as well."



Also, did it seem to anyone else that Pioli really likes Cassel, and should there be more speculation about an attempt to bring him here? And if he does, do we accept that Pioli knows more about Cassel, or do we continue to think that he sucks and that we judge talent better?

teedubya 01-14-2009 05:51 PM

The only titles that Scott Pioli cares about:

http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fb...94894_1191.jpg

Otter 01-14-2009 05:51 PM

I like the guy.

Here we go boys. Looking forward to it.

Hoover 01-14-2009 05:51 PM

I'm impressed. Its almost like overnight we went from a franchise that was never a destination for good players to want to play, to one of the best places to play in terms of ownership and class.

This is exactly what you have to have if you want to bring a championship to KC.

Archie Bunker 01-14-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 5391058)
I'm impressed. Its almost like overnight we went from a franchise that was never a destination for good players to want to play, to one of the best places to play in terms of ownership and class.

This is exactly what you have to have if you want to bring a championship to KC.

:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 05:53 PM

i can not believe we have this guy...

we have a GM with a PLAN who has been an integral part of CHAMPIONSHIPS

i ****ing love it


and no one in this franchise is safe now...all the mediocrity is about to get killed dead...

Otter 01-14-2009 05:53 PM

I'm going downstairs to break open a couple micro-brews. After being so down on this team for so long it's worth a Wednesday beer.

:BLVD:

teedubya 01-14-2009 05:54 PM

A new day! An END OF AN ERROR!!!

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 05:54 PM

i can't emphasize enough how happy i am that we are finally gonna put priority on finding guys THAT FIT OUR SYSTEM.


one of the biggest fuggin train wreck things we did .... grabbing some guy who wouldn't excel at what we were gonna ask them to do.

sign/draft a zone guy for a man-to-man scheme ... sign/draft a mauling offense lineman for a pulling/space blocking scheme :banghead:

chiefscafan 01-14-2009 05:54 PM

i agree with pioli's thoughts on the combine I usually don't buy into it its fun to see who is in the draft I watched what Flaco did last year and judged him by the combine and I was wrong. Normally I don't do that in a qb who cares if he can bench or throw far how does the guy play the game and lead? I like pioli I just hope he fires herm and gets a good HC here.

Donger 01-14-2009 05:55 PM

I think the comment that both Pioli and Hunt are the same type of men is entirely accurate.

dirk digler 01-14-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391064)

and no one in this franchise is safe now...all the mediocrity is about to get killed dead...

thank god. I am ready to get back to winning seasons and hopefully be able to see the Chiefs in the SB in my lifetime

Donger 01-14-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5391067)
A new day! An END OF AN ERROR!!!

ROFL

DrRyan 01-14-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5391053)
It'd be cool if he would enter in full Native American garb, holding two scalps that are purported to be from Carl and Herm. He could throw them into the press area and then say, "Any questions?"

Good call, that would be hysterical.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 05:55 PM

i can't wait until this guy starts swinging the ax....

Tiger's Fan 01-14-2009 05:56 PM

I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

RUSH 01-14-2009 05:57 PM

This deserves a cold one. Cheers everyone!

Marcellus 01-14-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5391077)
I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

Ridiculously overblown.

Bearcat 01-14-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5391067)
END OF AN ERROR!!!

Heh... that was the headline in Detroit the day Millen left.

Donger 01-14-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5391077)
I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

Good lord.

Craqhead 01-14-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5390936)
he's getting smoother as he relaxes, he's a smart guy, you can tell....

Is that good or bad?

But yeah I noticed that too...

DrRyan 01-14-2009 06:00 PM

I hope I can catch this on NFLN tonight. I could not get the audio on computer I was using.

Donger 01-14-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craqhead (Post 5391089)
Is that good or bad?

But yeah I noticed that too...

It's good. He's not an salesman or a semi-professional actor.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5391071)
thank god. I am ready to get back to winning seasons and hopefully be able to see the Chiefs in the SB in my lifetime

810 made a great point...he was asked about KC's personnel guys...Pioli said "they're competent"....that is not an endorsement, that is not praise...that is borderline contempt...

same with Herm...what is most important is what Pioli didn't say, he didn't praise anyone but Clark....

i think the truth is that he sees right through this franchise...he isn't impressed by anything left by Carl and he's going to fugging wreck it....

i hope he puts on his championship rings and proceeds to pimp slap his way through the organizational chart of this crap stain franchise...

chiefscafan 01-14-2009 06:01 PM

So how long before we are competitive again next year, two years, three years?

banyon 01-14-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391099)
810 made a great point...he was asked about KC's personnel guys...Pioli said "they're competent"....that is not an endorsement, that is not praise...that is borderline contempt...

same with Herm...what is most important is what Pioli didn't say, he didn't praise anyone but Clark....

i think the truth is that he sees right through this franchise...he isn't impressed by anything left by Carl and he's going to fugging wreck it....

i hope he puts on his championship rings and proceeds to pimp slap his way through the organizational chart of this crap stain franchise...

A-f***ing-Men.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5391077)
I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

.

banyon 01-14-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5391077)
I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

Calm down.

DrRyan 01-14-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5391100)
So how long before we are competitive again next year, two years, three years?

My optimistic outlook says we sniff a .500 season next year showing great improvement like the Cards did last season under Wisenhunt and make the challenge for the AFC West title the following year. Just my hunch.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5391077)
I take it as a personal afront that Clark Hunt hasn't fired Herm already. To leave the fanbase hanging like this is more than is deserved. The fact that Clark ever gave Herm a vote of confidence lessens my opinion of him as an owner, and a human being. We can read whatever we want into the situation after todays presser, but the fact that it hasn't been resloved already is a slap in the face of the average fan.

here's a clothes hanger...abort yourself

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391115)
here's a clothes hanger...abort yourself

ROFL

teedubya 01-14-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 5391085)
Heh... that was the headline in Detroit the day Millen left.

Was it? ROFL Awesome. It applies! heh

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 06:06 PM

Herm is a loud mouthed braggard

Pioli is a humble,respectful professional


oil and water don't mix

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:06 PM

Does anyone think he's saying what he's saying about Herm because you're suppose to interview a black candidate to be HC?

The Franchise 01-14-2009 06:06 PM

Does anyone who calls into the 810 radio show....know how to ****ing speak?

chiefscafan 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

kietzman love him or not had a great point the patriot way is not talking herm talks thats not the patriot way. Also herm was not in the room today.

Shag 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Didn't see the presser, but read through the details here, and saw a quick snippet on ESPN. As for Herm, another thing to remember is that Clark has obviously expressed his desire to retain Herm. Given that, I imagine that Clark would at least agree to meet with Herm and talk about things, if nothing else than to appease Clark. Plus, it wouldn't do Pioli any good to just immediately axe the owner's choice for HC - there is some professional courtesy involved here.

At this point, I wouldn't read too much into his comments about Herm...

dirk digler 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

810 is reporting that Herm wasn't at the press conference today and was at home.

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5391123)
Does anyone who calls into the 810 radio show....know how to ****ing speak?

Nope.

95% of callers to shows like this are full reerun.

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5391123)
Does anyone who calls into the 810 radio show....know how to ****ing speak?

No not usually.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:08 PM

GOD DAM KC FANS ARE THE DUMBEST MOTHER****ERS ON THE PLANET EARTH



****


these callers are flaming reeruned moran idiot assholes

dirk digler 01-14-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391122)
Does anyone think he's saying what he's saying about Herm because you're suppose to interview a black candidate to be HC?

Doesn't count because he is already under contract with the Chiefs

The Franchise 01-14-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391135)
Nope.

95% of callers to shows like this are full reerun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391136)
No not usually.

FFS....everyone seems like they just crawled down out of the mountains to call in.

"I like this Pioli guy"

Why?

"I like him."

Why? Because he was a part of the Patriots?

"Yep"

Okkkkkkkkkk then.

chiefscafan 01-14-2009 06:09 PM

From today we fire herm we will try to get Frentz if not him Spagnolo giants d coordinator both don't talk. LOng shot Shwartz from tenn.

dirk digler 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

Paydirt is by far the best football caller on 810

KChiefs1 01-14-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5391100)
So how long before we are competitive again next year, two years, three years?

Competitive? Next season....

DaWolf 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 5391112)
My optimistic outlook says we sniff a .500 season next year showing great improvement like the Cards did last season under Wisenhunt and make the challenge for the AFC West title the following year. Just my hunch.

Hell, at this point sniffing .500 might mean we're playing for the division week 17...

Chiefnj2 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5391132)
810 is reporting that Herm wasn't at the press conference today and was at home.

Someone should tell Herm he can watch the Super Bowl this year since he's never going to be the head coach of team that is actually in the game.

bishop_74 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Didn't Clark state that final decision on HC would be his? I can't hear the pressed, but would assume this is why he is not saying much.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5391143)
From today we fire herm we will try to get Frentz if not him Spagnolo giants d coordinator both don't talk. LOng shot Shwartz from tenn.

did you just call 810?

Mecca 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5391141)
FFS....everyone seems like they just crawled down out of the mountains to call in.

"I like this Pioli guy"

Why?

"I like him."

Why? Because he was a part of the Patriots?

"Yep"

Okkkkkkkkkk then.

Now you see why the sterotype comes out.....about half this city is full of redneck baffoons.

Mr. Laz 01-14-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391137)
GOD DAM KC FANS ARE THE DUMBEST MOTHER****ERS ON THE PLANET EARTH



****


these callers are flaming reeruned moran idiot assholes

what a minute ..... aren't YOU a KC fan?

FringeNC 01-14-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391076)
i can't wait until this guy starts swinging the ax....

I have a feeling he is not going to be impressed upon hearing about LJ being suspended for blowing off team meetings...then when he watches LJ attempt to pass block...

LJ's KC career is over.

DaWolf 01-14-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391099)
810 made a great point...he was asked about KC's personnel guys...Pioli said "they're competent"....that is not an endorsement, that is not praise...that is borderline contempt...

same with Herm...what is most important is what Pioli didn't say, he didn't praise anyone but Clark....

i think the truth is that he sees right through this franchise...he isn't impressed by anything left by Carl and he's going to fugging wreck it....

i hope he puts on his championship rings and proceeds to pimp slap his way through the organizational chart of this crap stain franchise...

This...

Barret 01-14-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5391132)
810 is reporting that Herm wasn't at the press conference today and was at home.

Get used to that "being at home" position.

The Franchise 01-14-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391171)
Now you see why the sterotype comes out.....about half this city is full of redneck baffoons.

Holy shit.....I guess. It's like listening to the Raider's radio show here in Oakland. Everyone that calls in....has no clue what they're talking about.

Caller #1 - JaMarcus is the best evar!!!!!
Caller #2 - McFadden is a God!!!!
Caller #3 - Cable is the best HC evar!!!!
Caller #4 - We should bring back Rice!!!!

DrRyan 01-14-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5391164)
Hell, at this point sniffing .500 might mean we're playing for the division week 17...

It certainly could. The Raiders are going no where fast. The Chargers are getting old on the O line along with LT, and there is no telling how Merriman comes back next season. The Broncos will definitely score points but overall their defense has much less talent, especially young talent than the Chiefs do. I do not expect a division title next season but anything is possible. The right hires for coaches and a good draft could go a long way to making that happen.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5391177)
what a minute ..... aren't YOU a KC fan?

no, i don't drive a Camero and think Gunther is a great DC because he cusses a lot....

DaWolf 01-14-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5391180)
I have a feeling he is not going to be impressed upon hearing about LJ being suspended for blowing off team meetings...then when he watches LJ attempt to pass block...

LJ's KC career is over.

I'll be curious to see if Pioli can finagle compensation for him. The nice thing is that if it were Carl, he would have too much emotion invested in it, like he did with Gonzo, because the guy was his personal #1 pick. Pioli probably doesn't give a #$%^ and would probably look to deal him with a plan to use any compensation in another deal, because he has an actual plan on how to do things...

Bearcat 01-14-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 5391128)
Didn't see the presser, but read through the details here, and saw a quick snippet on ESPN. As for Herm, another thing to remember is that Clark has obviously expressed his desire to retain Herm. Given that, I imagine that Clark would at least agree to meet with Herm and talk about things, if nothing else than to appease Clark. Plus, it wouldn't do Pioli any good to just immediately axe the owner's choice for HC - there is some professional courtesy involved here.

At this point, I wouldn't read too much into his comments about Herm...

Yeah, like others, I got the feeling that Herm is gone, but regardless of what Pioli is actually thinking right now -- keep him, fire him, gonna talk about it -- he wasn't going to say anything that would give it away. He's obviously showing Clark and Herm some respect... it's not like he's going to fly into KC and start firing people like he's been a GM for 30 years.

Based on what I've read about Pioli though, I agree with Laz... Pioli is humble, doesn't care about titles, etc; while Herm is pretty damn arrogant for a guy who's won two football games since 10/22/07. After 'careful consideration' and 'talking with many people' and 'losing sleep over the decision', Pioli needs to throw Herm under the bus and never look back.

Craqhead 01-14-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5391053)
It'd be cool if he would enter in full Native American garb, holding two scalps that are purported to be from Carl and Herm. He could throw them into the press area and then say, "Any questions?"

LMAO!!!

OnTheWarpath15 01-14-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5391195)
I'll be curious to see if Pioli can finagle compensation for him. The nice thing is that if it were Carl, he would have too much emotion invested in it, like he did with Gonzo, because the guy was his personal #1 pick. Pioli probably doesn't give a #$%^ and would probably look to deal him with a plan to use any compensation in another deal, because he has an actual plan on how to do things...

He'll take what he can get for him, because he values ALL draft picks, not just 1st day picks.

Tiger's Fan 01-14-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5391177)
what a minute ..... aren't YOU a KC fan?

Not sure about the fandom, but I do know he's a dumb****.

The Franchise 01-14-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391211)
He'll take what he can get for him, because he values ALL draft picks, not just 1st day picks.

Exactly.....there will be no more holding out for a 4th instead of a 5th. Take what you can get and move the **** on.

Smed1065 01-14-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 5391112)
My optimistic outlook says we sniff a .500 season next year showing great improvement like the Cards did last season under Wisenhunt and make the challenge for the AFC West title the following year. Just my hunch.

.500 would be great next year with our schedule.

blueballs 01-14-2009 06:23 PM

Was he wearing a Chiefs pin on his lapel
or did Carl kill off that fashion statement

ChiefsGirl 01-14-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5391228)
Was he wearing a Chiefs pin on his lapel
or did Carl kill off that fashion statement

no pin

DJ's left nut 01-14-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5391132)
810 is reporting that Herm wasn't at the press conference today and was at home.

Then he's gone.

No way the HC doesn't show up to the introduction of the new GM if he thinks he's still employed by the organization. I think he has already been notified and the Chiefs are just working on the timing.

I wish Herm nothing but the best, he seems like a genuinely decent guy, but good lord is he stupid. Just be gone and live out the rest of your years being an exceptional DB coach while mumbling in incoherent bliss like Corky from "Life Goes On".

Rain Man 01-14-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5391099)

i hope he puts on his championship rings and proceeds to pimp slap his way through the organizational chart of this crap stain franchise...


Three Super Bowl rings can make a pretty effective set of brass knuckles. Perhaps the sign of progress will be people cleaning out their desks with jaw bruises that say (backwards) XXXVI, XXXVIII, and XXXIX.

The Franchise 01-14-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5391232)
Then he's gone.

No way the HC doesn't show up to the introduction of the new GM if he thinks he's still employed by the organization. I think he has already been notified and the Chiefs are just working on the timing.

I wish Herm nothing but the best, he seems like a genuinely decent guy, but good lord is he stupid. Just be gone and live out the rest of your years being an exceptional DB coach while mumbling in incoherent bliss like Corky from "Life Goes On".

This.


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