We all have seen that the front office is pretty tight-lipped these days- whose to say Herm didn't already know a few days ago? Gun took a job before anyone was fired. They could have easily kept it mum, let Herm know and to sit on it, and already conducted a minority interview while feeling out Shanny's interest...


Crazy, I know, but we live in Pioli times...

I'm supremely confident this is happening.

The only reason to can Herm today was to allow Shanahan to settle comfortably into his office chair and eat the leftover fig newtons.

Wow, I am shocked at this. Could this be the resurgence of LJ? Shanahan has made 1,000 yard RBs of dudes off the scrap heap. Who knows what he can do with LJ if he can keep his head on straight.

Interesting tidbit from Blob Gretz

Does the WPI hiring process involve drinking the blood of Kali from a skull, like in Temple of Doom? If someone burned you with a torch, would you snap out of it?

Yeah....he probably spoke with him telling him to get the **** out of the building before he gets there.

F --- Nick the d*ck!!! No-nothing-sh*tbag.

When someone posted that Mort was siting Jack Harry as his source, I knew this was starting to lose steam.

When we ban people, we rip their still-beating hearts out of their chests and lower them into a molten pit.

He didn't cite him as a source.

He said he heard this rumor from an NBC affiliate on Wednesday, and it had absolutely no legs then.

The supposed Kyle Shanahan comments take on a little more significance now....

mmmmm, fig newtons.....

And then force them to live in their parents' basement with no real job.

Why on earth would Shanahan go along with this? He's going to burn up a 20 year friendship - not just between him and Pat Bowlen, but their families as well - to give the billionaire Hunt family salary relief - all the while making only as much as he would have going to the golf course every day? Get real.

Hm. Wasn't Shanahan pretty much ambushed by his 20 year friend firing him?

Can't get to me, I'm hiding in a fridge.

ETA - please Fraz, don't shot!!!

I must have missed the memo where Shanahan quit and wasn't FIRED.

Yup.

Then you might want to read this piece by Tim Arango, published in The New York Times. Arango is a corporate media reporter, who breaks more stories than any business journalist in the country. His news articles are highly publicized on networks and are followed closely by Wall Street and Fortune 500 companies.

The article below by Tim Arango, he writes "Who owns sports coverage." Very interesting read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/bu...ll&oref=slogin

Okay so what if the Chiefs are negotiating right now, could they negotiate with Todd Haley right now? Or do they have to wait until after the SB...just curious to know if Haley is in the picture?

Mort was just on 810 here and he said he had 3 sources and the one of his most reliable sources said that the Chiefs were negotiating with Shanahan.

I doubt that would be Jack Harry.

I must have missed the memo/interview where Shanahan blew up and vowed revenge. All I recall him saying was good things about Bowlen and his time with the Broncos.

Maybe you can supply a link or something since you're so close the situation.

More than anything, it looks like the Chiefs have worked a deal for Shanahan (or are very, very close) and they are just downplaying the thing to give the Chiefs the time needed to go through the motions of satisfying the Rooney rule.

Yup.

Like I said, no other reason to fire Herm today, no other reason for all this to leak today.

It looks like Schefter is still in denial!

That doesn't even make any sense. Why would firing Herm today have any significance? Why today over any other day?

Man does curiousity ever kill the cat

So, if Shanarat does come to KC, will we still get to call him Shanarat?

It makes complete sense. Why today? For what other reason?

They could have fired him last week. They didn't, because Shanahan was still playing golf or getting his toes waxed or whatever the hell he does.

I don't have any good reason why I feel this way, but I don't think Shanahan is on his way to K.C.

Mort is in full retreat on ESPN News.

I plan to. He's still a rat, he'd just be our rat.

After three years of goody-two-shoes, we need a Rat.

Do you think they were just letting Herm's assistants walk without KNOWING they were going to fire him? They officially fired him TODAY, the last day they could before the Super Bowl. To me, this indicates that they know who they are hiring, or else they would have let him dangle until after the Super Bowl. I'm not saying it's Shanahan. I'm saying they know who they are hiring; and I suspect they will announce it tonight.

The rat would be a good thing. At least we'd have a guy who'd take divisional games seriously. Unlike Herm, "ah it's just like another game."

So according to your sources are we hiring Shanahan without a shadow of a doubt?

The Shanahan offense:

http://www.hickorytales.com/images/circus1.jpg

What is he saying?

I've been out of the loop all day.

What a day to not have internet or tv access.

Probably due to the fact that is has been 10 days since Pioli's has been hired so why the long wait unless they had a candidate signed sealed and delivered.

So what is the just of what Mort and others are saying on ESPN now? Is he back tracking or is a Shanahan hire likely/imminent?

Chiefs are currently ressurecting the corpse of Hank Stram

Nice...

Mort saying he has spoke with 5 sources.

1 says deal is near

1 says Shanahan is Clark's target

1 Chiefs official says it doubtful it's Shanahan

Then went on to discuss how secretive Clark is and talked about other candidates.

You must have missed Bowlen saying he prefered ShanaCAN not going to KC.

Scott Pioli: "Since my arrival last week, Herm and I have had several conversations as part of my overall evaluation of the football operation," Pioli said in a statement. "After careful consideration, Clark and I felt that it was best to make a change. What I conveyed last week in the press conference I still believe to be true -- Herm is a great man and a tremendous football coach. He respects the game and the league, and he is passionate about his players and his craft.

"Over the course of this last week, I have also spent time meeting and visiting with most of the assistant coaches, and I will continue to do so over the next several days. All of the coaches from last year's staff, with the exception of one, are under contract through the 2009 season."


Isn't it just barely possible that Pioli is telling the truth here?

I love how all of a sudden the media is rushing out to their sources FOR THE CHIEFS FOR ONCE.

Not at all.

I don't know what relevance that would have one way or the other.

Here's one thing I DIDN'T miss:

But ultimately, most of his sentiments were saved for Bowlen. As he mentioned the owner's name, Shanahan had to pause more than once to collect himself.

"It's tough because he's a great friend," he said. "He'll always be my great friend. The best owner in sports. I appreciate every opportunity he gave me to be successful. You have to make tough decisions in any organization, and Pat made a tough decision. . . . I've got no problem with it."

We Don't want rat face
 

He is a BRONCO NOT A CHIEF

NFLN just said that shanahan is not in the running for Chiefs HC

All this speculation and having reporters running around like chickens with their heads cut off make me want to high five Pioli.

YEAH! Marcus Allen sucks too!!!!!1111

monthsbehind.

Thanks smartass.

More of what I was looking for. One of my best friend's is a life long Donkey fan and he is close to the edge ready to jump if the Rat lands in KC.

The relevance is, he was FIRED by that so-called loyal friend. He owes Bowlen zilch now, friendship or not. What better way to say **** you and to show Bowlen how much he screwed up than to accept the KC job and kick the Broncos asses every year. Remember, revenge, is a dish, best served cold.

I'll bet money it is Paul Pasqualoni. He is defense minded, experienced, and Parcell's boy.

Yea, because they said so. Sorry, every available coach is in the running as far as I'm concerned.

Denver and Oakland will be getting yearly ass kickings if Shanahan comes here.

Out of all the candidates being rumored this would be the worst choice.

It is entirely possible. I think the confusing part for all of us is why it took him 10 days to decide to fire Herm.

Yea, it would be real ****ing methodical to move forward without a plan. GG.

That statement I quoted was from the press conference where Shanahan's firing was announced, you understand. He already knew he was fired.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he wouldn't coach the Chiefs. I'm just saying he wouldn't go along with the scheme that ESPN reported that would have Bowlen paying most of his salary while coaching the Chiefs. There's no reason to do that other than pettiness - a sentiment totally foreign to those he has already expressed regarding Bowlen.

(You would have to dig through several pages of this thread to get back to my original comment.)

We need the rat we gotta break that losing streak at Mile high once and for all!!

It's strategically beneficial for him to hamstring Bowlen if he were to coach here. :shrug:

Pioli just fired Herm

I'm confident whoever he hires as the next HC will be the right decision

Be careful what you wish for. You know Shanahan has never been able to win in Kansas City. :doh!:

It is in his contract that if he got a job he would have to pay the difference for the next 3 years IIRC. I believe he owes Shanahan $7 million a year.

This wouldn't hamstring Bowlen in any way as far as football operations go - there's no salary cap for coaches.

It would just be taking money out of Bowlen's pocket and putting into Hunt's.

Money that is not spent on Shanaha's salary can be spent on signing bonuses. Gives the rat a competitive advantage. Business, not personal.

Or putting it into his own on a deferred basis.

and thats a great thing because he wouldn't have to coach against them:p

Herm hasn't been able to win anywhere.

Heh. Good point.

He won here when it really matterd.

He still owes Shanahan the full amount even if Shanahan doesn't work - and is going to pay it without any problem, as far I've heard.

Shanahan has no reason whatsoever to take less from the Chiefs. That $7 million is the market price for Mike Shanahan.

It is beneficial to Bowlen that Shanahan get a job so instead of paying him $7 million dollars the next 3 years he will only have to pay a portion of that.

He'd only be coaching a mere eight games a year in KC. :eek:

And the thought of that happening is precisely why, anti-bronco sentiment aside, Chiefs should consider The Rat coming to KC.

Job 1 in the NFL: win your division.

Imagine bringing in a coach who absolutely knows the strategy of teams that you will play over a third of your yearly games against.

Some talk has been mentioned of what Pioli will do with 1) Herm; 2) Gonzo; 3) LJ. Shanny takes care of everything. He replaces Herm. His best years in Denver were when he was making Sharpe a HOF tight end. And don't you think LJ could get excited about the cutback blocking schemes perfected in Denver? (LJ just needs to quit spitting drinks in women's faces.)

I think Shanny wants a job. Bowlen already owes him a boatload for the rest of his Bronco contract, unless The Rat would take something less for just being a field manager.

And yes, Shanny has loved sticking it to his former boss Al Davis. Wouldn't he like to double his pleasure? Sure Bowlen is his friend. But Shanny is a nasty competitor and would like to bring it to Mile High City every year. You bet he would.

You think taking the job in KC isn't burning that friendship up by itself? Pat already said KC was the only team he didn't want to see Mike go to. Also, how friendly would you be with the guy that just fired you? Mike has a tendency to like to stick it to his former employers and KC is a perfect opportunity to do it 25% of the time. He won't get that percentage anywhere else.

I really don't think this is happening.