Nantz has his Husky vs. Husky history down. I hope we get a 3rd crack at them.

Mizzou wasn't even in the running for a 2 seed, they were the 4th 3 seed.

ASU is a 6 seed

By the way, Mike Anderson was the last coach to beat Calipari and Memphis in C-USA play.

Just throwing that out there....

Is that fact or just your opinion..

mmaddog
*******

MU should have an easy road to the Sweet Sixteen. Memphis will be a bear though....

I don't like that WV matchup for Kansas...don't like it at all. They are very good.

whoops, looked at the bracket wrong.

Oh shit. I'll be watching basketball at work for the next couple of weeks. That's some bad ass shit right there boy.

My man Seth. Tell em how it is.

****, both guys picked us to advance to the Final Four. That's oddly uncomfortable.

Mike Anderson is awesome. I told you guys.

Hey Mizzou, WINNING YOUR CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT MATTERS!

They were one of the 6/7 seeds I didn't want to see.

**** Arizona.

The Mountain West got 2 bids.

This is a ****in' Joke.

I agree. How the hell does the Mountain Worst get any bids at all?

Heh, KU playing the Bison.

Shut the **** up.

Kansas -- I like it... if they get to the SS, I think they could beat MSU. Just don't lose to North Dakota State, m-kay? Seth Davis just called WVU a sleeper team, so that means they'll lose in the first round. He's a f***ing moron.

Lookin forward to NIT-ology at 8pm!

Yeah, it's usually a good sign when idiots like Seth Davis or Clark Kellogg don't pick you to go far. They are absolute buffoons.

When Seth said UConn and Memphis didn't have any competition in their bracket, I breathed a sigh of relief.

I don't understand how some of you MU fans are calling it an easy road to the SS. And some of you are over-looking Marquette. Even without James they're a pretty solid team. Act like you've been there guys. ;) oh, and as a KU fan - GO DAYTON FLYERS!! That possible 2nd rd matchup with WVU worries me - a lot.
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We beat NDS in a closer game than it should be and lose to Boston College. From what I hear they're a very physical team and I just don't feel good about the Jayhawks this year.

gawd.. KU fans.. i can smell it already...

I've thought the Big East was overrated in years past, but this year I was worried about running into any of them.

It is kind of cool how both Mizzou and Kansas could play a Big East team in the second round... there have always been a lot of Big 12 fans who don't like the Big East and ACC, so it could be a rude awakening if the fifth and seventh teams in the BE beat the first and third teams in the B12.

I am not saying Marquette is going to beat MU, but some of these guys need to get realistic. Marquette is gonna be tough, as is WVU for us.
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I'm tired of Mid Majors getting squat ****ed.

Meritocracy?

LMAO LMAO

Vitale is going ape shit.

Here we go with the good stuff. Dick Vitale defending the mid-majors and Jay Bilas acting like we shouldn't have any mid-majors at all.

With that said...San Diego State is a better bb team at this point...than is Arizona. SDSU's RPI was 37....

There's a strong argument that the mountain west deserved 3 teams....over teams like:

Arizona
Michigan

yeah, this is great

Dick Vitale about to start crying on national tv.

It was incredible last year... every time I saw him before going to a new set of games, he would say something along the lines of "I see these teams winning, and look out for these upsets", and he was wrong every.... single.... time. I don't think anyone could be more wrong if they were trying to be wrong.

Just before the FF games, he said UCLA and UNC would advance, and then he picked Memphis in the NC game.... he's the Kiss of Death.

ROFLROFL

What was Digger just doing pointing at someone. He didn't realize the camera was on him. ROFL

I can't understand how Arizona could get in over San Diego State... not that this hasn't been covered. their RPI and SOS were both like 30 places better, were they not

Yes...

And Arizona beat no one on the road...

I usually defend the mid-majors, but I'm fair. I was the one pimping the Mo. Valley a few years ago when they were really good, the KU fans laughed me out of the building for saying Bradley could beat them. But to be fair, I don't think we have anything like that this year. Nobody is that good.

But I think Vitale has a good argument that the more we bring in these power teams it rewards teams that win 18-19 games and are really mediocre. That's not any fun to watch in the first round. It's more fun to watch a Davidson go up against Syracuse or somebody.

Arizona has some huge wins. Who has San Diego State or St. Mary's beaten?

your "big wins" is an emotional argument... facts say that san diego played better teams this year overall

It's not just a mid-major thing, though. Looking at all of the 5 or 6 seeds and above, I see almost NOBODY capable of a sustained run. WVU is good for a few games, maybe, and I could definitely see a few mid-low seeds pulling upsets in the first round, but looking at a bracket, almost NOBODY outside of the top 4 seeds looks like a real threat.

Well, I think Vitale is certainly making more sense than anyone else in this argument.

How so? I can sit here and name top teams that Arizona beat. Who did SDSU or St. Mary's beat?

I'd much rather play UCLA, Arizona State, or even Marquette.

Oh God, here comes Knight with his 300+ team tourney idea.

Yeah, West Virginia is going to be a tough game.

I think it's going to happen. The Big East is good.

First we gotta get by NDS, though....

That's exactly what I said.

I actually saw NDSU play when ESPN was showing their WTF conference tourneys. If we lose to them, I will be furious.

But WV is very VERY good, and unfortunately Thuggins can coach. Then if we happen to win that one we get Michigan State :doh:

RPI

SOS

Bob Knight, railing against women on the committee. ROFL

I started filling out my bracket and was very close to putting 3 of them in the final four. I'll sleep on it tonight, and come back in tomorrow and might put the 3rd one in.

Yeah...I remember their white guard hitting a clutch shot to win over Oakland.

Mich. State was one of the few teams that had an easy time with KU this year. Not good. Our bracket is quite awful.

Did Creighton get in?

I thought that was weird, too. Dad said they were saying that OU would be fighting for a 1 seed had they won the tourney (but, as KU fans remind us, tourney place means squat). Wasn't BG player of the year? Maybe that had something to do with it.

No.

a valid point....they came up 2 pts short against St Mary's....and had some other close calls...but no "big wins".

I guess the argument is the RPI....and the "mediocre conference record" argument another poster made....

Do you reward a mediocre season (.500 or worse) in a major conference over a good season in a mid-major, or sub-major if you will, conference?

Tough call.

I just dont like the East Coast Sports Network's slurping of east coast teams....and Arizona (they have always had a man-crush for Lute Olson).

ROFL My work is done here.

If at least two of those big three don't get there, I'd be very surprised. Syracuse is capable of beating anybody in the NCAA, too.

The only argument against Arizona is their big wins (KU, Gonzaga) came at home. You'd rarely ever get Kansas to go play at St. Mary's. Gonzaga had to go to St. Mary's since they're in the same conference... and they only won by 2 points... and Patty Mills was out.

Arizona played 2 non-conference games on the road, that's it. And they lost them both, including a 15 point loss at UNLV.

So, ranking 2009 meltdowns so far:

1. Vitale responds to the omission of Mid Majors
2. 'Hamas' hears about the Cassel trade
3. The Economy

KU may nor fet past ND St., playing in Minneapolis they will have a huge following drive over from ND.

9 people live in North Dakota.

Vitale's mid-major rant may have been taped from every previous year, i'm not sure though

But all nine are good, wholesome people.

True...but I'm sure they'll get enough KU fans to go there...

I think a lot of people have thought "out in the first weekend or as far as the EE" for a while for Kansas, and I think the same thing now that I've seen the brackets. 7/8 of WVU's conference losses came against teams ahead of them in the standings, and five of them came against Louisville, Pitt, or UConn. I haven't watched them, but a lot of those games at least look close, so that looks like a very tough game.

Get past NDS and WVU though, and I think they would have a decent shot against MSU, BC, or USC. B10 teams do okay in the tourney because of their defense and their sluggish pace, but it's to Kansas' advantage that they played @MSU earlier in the season. That's as far as I could see them going, and that's asking a lot.

Digger talking Kansas.... saying they're now a very dangerous team in that region because of their recent losses. F*** you, Jay Bilas.

I was just talking to one of those people down here in Mexico. So cross that guy off the list of attendees.

ROFL

Reese pulling out the "B" card.

Refresh my memory here, when is the last time a mid-major won the national title?

They haven't because they don't get the opportunity/Dicky V.

I hope you get a home game.

Jay Bilas seems to become a bigger dick everyday. He used to be less of an a-hole. Still a pretty good analyst but I like Doug Gottlieb the most. He does his homework, and knows what he is talking about.

West Virginia was actually the last team I wanted KU to face in the 2nd round. And then despite being ranked as the top #3 team, we still got matched up with them. Bah. At least it will be an exciting game if we do happen to beat NDS.

I don't think that's much of a question. Hope they get 2 though.

Yeah, but really that doesn't pertain to this argument. When's the last time a 12 or 13 seed BCS team who went .500 in their conference won a national title?

OK, that's funny...

Same here. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't though. I thought the 07 team had a better shot at the NCAA tournament than this team did, and they ended up a 2 seed in the NIT. I'm guessing around a 4 or 5 seed for KSU in the NIT this year, which would not bode well for getting many home games.

When are tip times decided and posted? I work 8-7 Friday, here's to hoping we play later!
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I used to like Bilas, but he did come off as a cockbag during that exchange with Vitale.

I wasn't trying to prove a point, just asking a question. If the NCAA was interested in determining a national champion, the tournament would only be about 32 teams.

The Duke/blue blood/pedigreed attitude definitely came out a bit.

Thought it was funny when Dick Vitale said because Bilas went to Duke he must be smarter than I am. HAHA. I don't even like Vitale's yapper, but that was funny.

Yeah, real solid argument. :rolleyes:

Sure, this KU team has been inconsistent this year. Youth will do that, I ues. But I just don't see that kind of thing happening again to a Self coached team. I could be wrong. Has happened before. :)