Meh. I don't think the Chiefs are going to draft him no matter what...but I could see him going #3 overall...

If the Chiefs do draft him, they have to be drafting him to try and get a draft day trade done after the fact...like Rivers/Manning a few years ago, don't you think?

2 first rounders for Cutler!!!

Too much

From what I've seen of him I believe he is physically better...he's not quite as tall that's the only thing I believe Cassel has on him.

And look who is the biggest advocate of trading our #3 now.

A picture from 2006.

All reports say since finding out about his diagnosis, he's been a health fiend.

Would you rather have that or 12, 2010 1st, 2nd (or 3rd not sure where the value lines up)?

Basically their entire draft, but you're talking to me, the guy who'd rather have Sanchez than any of our current QB's.

'Hamas' is a football and planet GOD, and I shall pray in his direction three times a day! :thumb:

Denver can WANT Sanchez all they like; they're not getting him. I have the Voodoo Powers to make it so.

I've always been an advocate for trading #3 but according to the drafturbators it is almost impossible to trade out of a top 5 pick.

be specific. what is sanchez better at physically? their arms are =. height cassel wins, mobility probably a push, what have you got?

Now do you see why I won't act like Mayock is the holy grail, his opinion just changes on a whim and his big boards are a joke half the time.

Then he'll have a good mock and know picks due to his team sources. So people think he's great.

You aren't the brightest bulb in the box, are you? Just dig a little deeper. Maybe you'll find brains somewhere.

thought there were reports that he has been drinking heavily? hell it was posted somewhere here.

I don't think Cassel has a better arm, I'd give Sanchez rough an 8 and Cassel a high 6 or low 7 on arm strength...

I also don't think he throws the ball nearly as accurately especially on the move as Sanchez does.

In all fairness, when has it happened?

There have been 2 trades INSIDE the Top 5 in the past decade.

I can't remember the last time a team moved up from outside the Top 5 to inside the Top 5.

Blame history, not the people making the comment.

It's almost too perfect. :drool:

RITZ KRAKAZ!!!

wtf is that supposed to mean. its the same kind of comparison thrown out here, cassel is not as good because of the compensation. well branch held out demanding a trade(issues) moss has issues. branch went for a #1 moss a #4 who's better? by the way people are talking here it HAS to be branch right?

Off subject Hamas...but you were the only one that didn't make it to the CP FLB draft...didn't know if you forgot or couldn't be there, but the auto didn't **** you TOO much...if you want to work out a trade or something there are a few guys on my team that could help you and a few guys on your team that could help me...

Sanchez has never thrown a pass in the NFL when the game is on the line. I know that he may have a better arm but he hasn't shown it yet. I'd go with the bird in the hand. Hope I'm right on this one though.

God, Mecca, you are SO dumb. Why would anyone listen to you( because they have a brain?)? ;)

you should watch some of his games, really.

So, we're going to give our division rival the number three pick so they can get the player they covet?

makes sense.

people were questioning sanchez's arm strength at the combine

Um I've seen all of his games...Cassel has a much slower release than Sanchez does also...

I like how because my opinion isn't glowing you think I haven't watched him.

Given the conniption fit you threw after I drafted him, you need to shut the **** up.

And what was my reasoning? Because I hold one of the QBs for ransom, and have a chance of landing a QB with far more upside.

And at his pro day people were wowed by it saying his workout was better than Staffords...

He has a very good arm.

Does Pioli seem like the type to "give" anyone anything?

We have all the leverage here. Whether we use it or not remains to be seen.

You and me are different, if I know I have a QB is is average to good but I have the chance at one I feel may be great, I'll take the chance on the one who may be great.

so #12 and #18...

Would Denver make that trade with a rival?

And who are we going to target at #12 and #18? Probably a pass rushing DE...and a guy like Rey Maualuga? Heyward-Bey and Maualuga?

boy, the bears got screwed

His style of play is very similar, just slower. And as you said, he has a much faster release( and decision-making abilities too).

They said Stafford still has a better arm so don't blow to much smoke.


PhilFree:arrow:

That's fine. I really don't care about non $ league teams.

Not be an azz or anything but that is what the Dolts thought with Leaf....

I'm not saying he has a better arm than Stafford, Stafford has a better arm than 99% of the NFL..

Sanchez has a very very good arm is the point.

And what about Sanchez is anything like Leaf?

I really get tired of that argument.

I don't you can compare the two against each other yet. Sanchez hasn't played a down of NFL football. He hasn't seen a defense nearly as good as he'll see in the worst defense he'll see next year. I'm not saying he won't be good, I'm just saying Cassel has seen and played (well) against better players and schemes than Sanchez. we'll see, that's why it's so hard to predict what QB's will make it and which won't.

I understand, it seems as if it will be a pretty competitive and active league.

you didn't understand what I saying??

the transaction doesn't make sense, unless you think the coveted player isn't a threat to your success.

I honestly could see sticking with the #12 pick and trying to trade down from the #18 pick.

Sure, but I'd say just going on pure natural abilities they bring Sanchez is more accurate and throws better on the run.

For all we know they may both suck.

You may get tired of the argument but it is perfectly valid. Drafting a QB in the 1st round is a crap shoot. It just doesn't matter how great they are in college. Whether it's Ryan Leaf, John Elway, or Sanchez. There are many more QB drafting failures in the 1st round than not.

Not this shit again!

God ****ing damnit.

Sure it does.

I honestly don't get the whole "DON'T TRADE TO A RIVAL!!1111" argument. If you hold something that a rival wants....and you have the chance to rape them.....go for it.

aww jesus....

So is this the fear argument?

The ok guy in the NFL is better than taking a risk?

What 'chu talkin' bout, Willis?! Of course Pioli will assist our division rival! :rolleyes::thumb:

He's wearing his Chiefs fan fear cap.

hehehehe, it worked. Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. You are all so easy....LMAO

JFC.

It figures that it would come full circle back to this ****ing argument.

QUIT BEING SCARED LIKE A LITTLE BITCH!

Actually, it does.

A good GM doesn't make deals based on the other teams needs, he does what is best for his team.

Two scenarios:

Chiefs draft Sanchez and hold either him or Cassel hostage. We'd likely get #12, #18 any maybe a later pick for Sanchez - and likely the 18th for Cassel. Maybe more seeing as how big a hard-on McDaniels has for him.

Keep Sanchez + #18 overall.

Keep Cassell + #12 and #18 overall.

In either scenario, the Chiefs come out HUGE winners, IMO.

I honestly don't think there's a more perfect Chief style offseason than Matt Cassel and Aaron Curry, the safe guys!

STFU

I'm not scared, if the Chiefs can't get Curry, I'd draft Sanchez in a second. I am laughing my azz off because I knew that you'd react like this......

And there it is!

Curry!

My thoughts exactly! :thumb:

Not enough. If the Donks want him that damn bad, then we better demand king's ransom. We blunder the castle and take them to the bank. We screw them so hard that they are bleeding out of all three orifices. Otherwise, we have two legitimate QBs on the roster and they're left with the Kyle Orton Project guest starring Chris Sims. **** the Donks.

whatever happens the draft just became even more interesting

If the Chiefs draft Sanchez our fan base is going to meltdown....I'd be happy with it but general fan will be very upset.

What you don't get Mecca is that I really do like Sanchez and I wish that the Chiefs could get him. But, now that they went and got Cassel, I really think the better pick at #3 is defense for them. Our defense blows and improvement there is mandatory this offseason. Curry seems to be great value and if someone could convince me that a better defensive player exists at #3, I may like him better.

if we draft him i hope its for trade purposes

Take your own advice.

If it makes you feel better I'll be at a huge party with pants full of jizz.

The Bears are my favorite NFC team. If Cutler wins them a Superbowl it would be so great. Not saying it will happen but just imagine the reaction in Denver.

I don't know why people post links here. If you don't have an account, you can't read it.

Cut and paste, dude.

I'd trade the Broncos Cassel in a second if we got a 1st for it and drafted Sanchez, then I'd go do a cartwheel.

Me too!

and a second rounder - deal. I would want to rape the donkos

"QUITCRYINGLIKEABITCH"

We trade Cassel and 3 for both firsts a second and some other pick, and then take Beanie Wells at 12 after trading LJ for a 3rd.

Everybody says WTF.

Sure....you can take mine if you want too.

Even more hilarious would be to draft Sanchez and trade Cassel to somewhere like Tampa. LMAO

Clayton posted some bait and noone at the Mane is taking it.

LMAO

ROFL

That would be ****ing hilarious.

Denver can battle the Jets for Josh Freeman.

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that Sanchez is going to go be great on some team I hate, that's the life of a Chiefs fan.

WTF.

And if Sanchez puts up identical numbers to Cassels next year, I would be very surprised if he didn't win offensive rookie of the year.