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DeezNutz 04-12-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664451)
There is no way Kelli can be fattening. She looks like pretty lean meat.

You're welcome.

Nah. He'd tear his tongue.

Mecca 04-12-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664450)
Just embrace the mullet, man.

I've had bad haircuts. I had a chili-bowl in like 3rd grade..it replaced my rat-tail look.

Rat tail :shake:

Pablo 04-12-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664451)
There is no way Kelli can be fattening. She looks like pretty lean meat.

You're welcome.

Something on me fattens up every time I see her.

Hey-Oh!

Hootie 04-12-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5664445)
Hootie likes to be a braggart when discussing these romps or stories of dipshittery, but when he's really pressed on it, (like someone mentioning googling Em-Dawg), his e-sac shrinks like he's teabagging a snowman.

How do you figure?

Every story or post I've made regarding my personal life on this website is TRUE.

I'd rather people not google my friends/ex-girlfriends/family members...sure. That makes sense, don't you think?

But I guess with all of the people I rub the wrong way with these stories (not sure why anyone cares THAT much), one of you dipshits will go out of your way to turn it into something personal just so you can all high five and get your jollies off.

The problem is, there is really only one angle anyone can attack which would upset me...and it's not somehow finding Em-dawg and linking her to these threads via facebook. She'd A) expect it from me and B) shrug it off...can't do anything about the truth.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5664447)
That's just not how ordinary people operate...most strive to become productive members of society...and while I'm probably not quite there yet, at least I'm on my way.

Define irony.

http://www.tisbuscemi.com/wp-content...and250x191.bmp

Pablo 04-12-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664456)
Rat tail :shake:

That was more my white trash family/school than me.

It's kinda sad..there were a quite a few of us at school that had sweet rat-tails.

Mecca 04-12-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664460)
That was more my white trash family/school than me.

It's kinda sad..there were a quite a few of us at school that had sweet rat-tails.

I'm only going to cut you some slack because you appear to be a Jon Lajoie fan.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5664458)
How do you figure?

Every story or post I've made regarding my personal life on this website is TRUE.

I'd rather people not google my friends/ex-girlfriends/family members...sure. That makes sense, don't you think?

But I guess with all of the people I rub the wrong way with these stories (not sure why anyone cares THAT much), one of you dipshits will go out of your way to turn it into something personal just so you can all high five and get your jollies off.

The problem is, there is really only one angle anyone can attack which would upset me...and it's not somehow finding Em-dawg and linking her to these threads via facebook. She'd A) expect it from me and B) shrug it off...can't do anything about the truth.

She'd find it funny, you bragged about it, then when pressed you vociferously didn't want people to do it.

That's duplicitous bullshit.

Pablo 04-12-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664462)
I'm only going to cut you some slack because you appear to be a Jon Lajoie fan.

Yeah..he's a pretty funny sumbitch.

Hootie 04-12-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5664459)

Despite what your personal feelings might be about my drunken dipshittery etc...

At least I get it. I get that I need a degree, I get that the college lifestyle is only a small phase...and I get the fact that I, someday, need to grow up and start being a productive member of society.

And I guarantee that's happening far before Mecca accomplishes whatever he's setting out to accomplish (which, from what I can tell, is pretty much nothing.)

Bowser 04-12-2009 10:48 PM

A Con Air reference. No shit.

pr_capone 04-12-2009 10:49 PM

Mecca...

Hootie...

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/830/hugeepenis.jpg


can we get back to the subject at hand?

* Cottam will replace TonyG as THE tight end in KC
* If offered, we should take that 2nd from ATL

This thing about Cottam being injury prone... again, I honestly have tried to wipe out last season from my memory. I know he broke his wrist in college but I don't recall him missing any games as a pro.

Getting his wrist broken does not equal being injury prone.

Hootie 04-12-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5664464)
She'd find it funny, you bragged about it, then when pressed you vociferously didn't want people to do it.

That's duplicitous bullshit.

Ok...

I don't know how to explain this.

Perhaps I tripped over my words in that thread.

I don't want her to see that thread...but if it came down to it, the next time I see her, if it really bothered you all THAT much...I'd show her the damn thread and I guarantee all she would do is laugh. That's how she is.

We're just not on those terms anymore...we don't AIM, we don't text, we don't call each other, we're not buddy/buddy...

The story was funny because I hadn't talked to her in two months...before the night I told my friend my goal for the night was to have sex with her.

The cool thing is...not a single post in that thread is fabricated, made up, or untrue. So no matter how far anyone wanted to dig (which seems ridiculous to me, because unlike midnight_vulture, I did nothing malicious to any member on this site...I didn't lie...all I did was tell a story, that in all reality, did nothing but depict me as an asshole idiot who sucks at life) nothing could happen. It wouldn't effect me in any way...my friends all know the story and think it is hilarious...Emily might find me creepy for posting about her on ChiefsPlanet...but what's the worst thing that can happen? We don't hook up once every three months anymore? Big loss for me! I don't know about you guys, but really intoxicated, unattached, drunk sex with a girl you really don't have any respect for (anymore) really isn't that exciting, and is really nothing more than a 'haha that girl still likes me' kind of thing.

Pablo 04-12-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5664479)

can we get back to the subject at hand?

* Cottam will replace TonyG as THE tight end in KC
* If offered, we should take that 2nd from ATL

This thing about Cottam being injury prone... again, I honestly have tried to wipe out last season from my memory. I know he broke his wrist in college but I don't recall him missing any games as a pro.

Getting his wrist broken does not equal being injury prone.

Cottam will be perfectly fine in a system that doesn't require him to catch for 1,000+ and 10 TD's a year. He's had Tony to mentor him a bit, so maybe he's got a good work ethic..I'm not concerned about filling the TE position, as we'll hopefully nullify it as an essential part of the offensive threat.

God, I'd just love to see two competent receivers...

Mecca 04-12-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664496)
Cottam will be perfectly fine in a system that doesn't require him to catch for 1,000+ and 10 TD's a year. He's had Tony to mentor him a bit, so maybe he's got a good work ethic..I'm not concerned about filling the TE position, as we'll hopefully nullify it as an essential part of the offensive threat.

God, I'd just love to see two competent receivers...

Hey we're lucky to have 1, it only took 20 years for that to happen.

Bowser 04-12-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664496)
Cottam will be perfectly fine in a system that doesn't require him to catch for 1,000+ and 10 TD's a year. He's had Tony to mentor him a bit, so maybe he's got a good work ethic..I'm not concerned about filling the TE position, as we'll hopefully nullify it as an essential part of the offensive threat.

God, I'd just love to see two competent receivers...

Bowe
Engram
Franklin

That's a decent 2, 3, and 4. Jeff Webb can kick rock.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:01 PM

In fairness Franklin should probably do something before he call him decent at anything...

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664497)
Hey we're lucky to have 1, it only took 20 years for that to happen.

No shit..but I mean, is Robiskie looking like a lock for the early 2nd or would be around at 55 for the Chiefs to look at?

I know everyone hates OSU, but I really liked this dude that past couple of seasons. He's got decent speed and really good hands..good route-runner too.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664502)
No shit..but I mean, is Robiskie looking like a lock for the early 2nd or would be around at 55 for the Chiefs to look at?

I know everyone hates OSU, but I really liked this dude that past couple of seasons. He's got decent speed and really good hands..good route-runner too.

Ehh, I don't think he's enough of a changeup out there to put him starting with Bowe.

For me to take a WR who wasn't a burner to pair with Bowe I'd have to have no question that he'd be special.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664500)
Bowe
Engram
Franklin

That's a decent 2, 3, and 4. Jeff Webb can kick rock.

I dunno..I thought Bradley was a pretty solid #2 for the Chiefs. Nothing spectacular, but a good complement to Bowe. Although he is injury prone.

Franklin hasn't done anything yet..and I like him as much as a KU fan can like a Mizzou product, but he just hasn't been utilized yet.

pr_capone 04-12-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664496)
Cottam will be perfectly fine in a system that doesn't require him to catch for 1,000+ and 10 TD's a year. He's had Tony to mentor him a bit, so maybe he's got a good work ethic..I'm not concerned about filling the TE position, as we'll hopefully nullify it as an essential part of the offensive threat.

God, I'd just love to see two competent receivers...

Tony has gone over 1k only 4 times and caught 10+ TD only 3 times in his career.

I'm not saying that Cottam will take Tony's place without missing a beat but the man can run, catch, and break tackles. I'll post that Cottam video again. I got a chubby last time I watched it.

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This guy can be a MONSTER.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5664507)
Tony has gone over 1k only 4 times and caught 10+ TD only 3 times in his career.

I'm not saying that Cottam will take Tony's place without missing a beat but the man can run, catch, and break tackles. I'll post that Cottam video again. I got a chubby last time I watched it.

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This guy can be a MONSTER.

Yeah, the numbers weren't rock solid..but I'm sure Tony is averaging close to 900 yards and 8 TD's a season. That's some pretty serious production for a TE.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:05 PM

I'm sure he can play, most teams don't ask their TE to be a major offensive weapon. Hell if you want a guy who is a superb receiving TE there are a couple of those guys in the draft and you could pair them up with Cottam.

Hootie 04-12-2009 11:08 PM

Cottam had 21 receptions and 1 TD in his college career.

Had he been healthy all 4 years...the dude would have been a 1st round pick...he's almost as much of a freak as Vernon Davis.

Blick 04-12-2009 11:08 PM

Cottam will never stay healthy. I'll bet anything on that.

pr_capone 04-12-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5664518)
Cottam will never stay healthy. I'll bet anything on that.

What the **** do you base that on?

Because he broke his wrist in college?

Or did your Magic 8 Ball say "Not Likely" after you shook it and asked whether or not Cottam would stay healthy?

Bowser 04-12-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664505)
I dunno..I thought Bradley was a pretty solid #2 for the Chiefs. Nothing spectacular, but a good complement to Bowe. Although he is injury prone.

Franklin hasn't done anything yet..and I like him as much as a KU fan can like a Mizzou product, but he just hasn't been utilized yet.

****, forgot Bradley. Get a legit #1 receiver in here, and that's potentially a great 5 receiver set.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:12 PM

He could be injury prone just the same as he may not be, we're not talking Brodie Croyle here.

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:12 PM

A legitimate #2 would eliminate the need to rely so heavily upon Gonzo.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664521)
****, forgot Bradley. Get a legit #1 receiver in here, and that's potentially a great 5 receiver set.

Now if someone wants to throw out injury prone for Bradley, that'd be accurate.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-12-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5664518)
Cottam will never stay healthy. I'll bet anything on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5664519)
What the **** do you base that on?

Because he broke his wrist in college?

Or did your Magic 8 Ball say "Not Likely" after you shook it and asked whether or not Cottam would stay healthy?

I hate that shit too. Unless it's done in "Jerkitude", a drive-by is worthless.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664521)
****, forgot Bradley. Get a legit #1 receiver in here, and that's potentially a great 5 receiver set.

If Bowe spends some time in the offseason with a ****ing Juggs machine..he IS a legit #1.

Right now, he's a great #1 for this franchise, but he's still play second fiddle on quite a few teams..but if he gets rid of the dropsies...he'll be a great WR for years to come.

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664528)
If Bowe spends some time in the offseason with a ****ing Juggs machine..he IS a legit #1.

Right now, he's a great #1 for this franchise, but he's still play second fiddle on quite a few teams..but if he gets rid of the dropsies...he'll be a great WR for years to come.

Indeed. I think after watching some tape Haley will be on his ass about that.
I expect to see big changes in Bowe this season.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:16 PM

Bowes a fine player but this is a year where we'd be best served to try to get a WR, it's a very good WR draft...

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5664533)
Indeed. I think after watching some tape Haley will be on his ass about that.
I expect to see big changes in Bowe this season.

I certainly hope so.

I like the guy as much as anyone, and I really love how physical he can be..but he's got the T.O. syndrome right now.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664536)
Bowes a fine player but this is a year where we'd be best served to try to get a WR, it's a very good WR draft...

It'd be great if we had a late 1st/early 2nd round pick...

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664536)
Bowes a fine player but this is a year where we'd be best served to try to get a WR, it's a very good WR draft...

Agreed.
WR-rich Draft class.
I'd definitely go there early.

Crabtree, Maclin, DHB, Robiskie, etc.
We could be set for years to come.

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664537)
I certainly hope so.

I like the guy as much as anyone, and I really love how physical he can be..but he's got the T.O. syndrome right now.

As much as he did for Fitzgerald (a guy who was pretty damn special beforehand)... I think he can do the same for Bowe.

Bowser 04-12-2009 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664524)
Now if someone wants to throw out injury prone for Bradley, that'd be accurate.

Yes it would. Shame, too. The kid seems to be able to play. I remember him tearing it up at Oklahoma, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664528)
If Bowe spends some time in the offseason with a ****ing Juggs machine..he IS a legit #1.

Right now, he's a great #1 for this franchise, but he's still play second fiddle on quite a few teams..but if he gets rid of the dropsies...he'll be a great WR for years to come.

The only reason I don't see Bowe as a #1 is his aparent lack of breakaway speed. However, that may just be the way they utilized him in the routes he ran. As for his dropsies, I am thinking (hoping) he had a bit of a sophomore slump with the dropsies. Gonzalez had a shitlaod his second year too, iirc.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5664543)
Agreed.
WR-rich Draft class.
I'd definitely go there early.

Crabtree, Maclin, DHB, Robiskie, etc.
We could be set for years to come.

You didn't even throw out the guy who I think is the lock to be a top of the line player at the position.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664545)
Yes it would. Shame, too. The kid seems to be able to play. I remember him tearing it up at Oklahoma, too.



The only reason I don't see Bowe as a #1 is his aparent lack of breakaway speed. However, that may just be the way they utilized him in the routes he ran. As for his dropsies, I am thinking (hoping) he had a bit of a sophomore slump with the dropsies. Gonzalez had a shitlaod his second year too, iirc.

Yeah, he doesn't have elite speed..but neither does Fitz.

You don't have to be really fast to be a legit #1, but you sure as shit HAVE to catch the ball.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664548)
You didn't even throw out the guy who I think is the lock to be a top of the line player at the position.

Nicks?

Blick 04-12-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5664519)
What the **** do you base that on?

Because he broke his wrist in college?

Or did your Magic 8 Ball say "Not Likely" after you shook it and asked whether or not Cottam would stay healthy?

It's just a hunch. He looks soft, and with his frame, I think he will be prone to a lot of injuries.

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664548)
You didn't even throw out the guy who I think is the lock to be a top of the line player at the position.

Harvin?
Nicks?
Britt?

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:23 PM

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Pablo 04-12-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5664554)
It's just a hunch. He looks soft, and with his frame, I think he will be prone to a lot of injuries.

Wha???

Cottam is a effin stud. 6'7" monster..I dunno how soft could even possibly be in your vocabulary to describe him.

Blick 04-12-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664560)
Wha???

Cottam is a effin stud. 6'7" monster..I dunno how soft could even possibly be in your vocabulary to describe him.

If he's such a stud, then why did he only have 21 career grabs and 1 TD?

And, for such a big guy, he's not a good blocker.

pr_capone 04-12-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5664554)
It's just a hunch. He looks soft, and with his frame, I think he will be prone to a lot of injuries.

You are right...

at 6'8 and 271 pounds the guy is a daisy!

Just look at his arms!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...Cvdcv/610x.jpg

A stiff breeze would snap those bad boys like they are twigs!

:rolleyes:

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:32 PM

Ah...

Hakeem Nicks.

Not a particularly fast WR, but does a lot of things well.
Good hands, runs routes well, good after the catch.

Michael Irvin-esque.

I'll take him. I think I'd rather have a guy like DHB who can be a vertical threat, but I wouldn't complain at all if they took Nicks.

kcchiefsus 04-12-2009 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5664545)
Yes it would. Shame, too. The kid seems to be able to play. I remember him tearing it up at Oklahoma, too.



The only reason I don't see Bowe as a #1 is his aparent lack of breakaway speed. However, that may just be the way they utilized him in the routes he ran. As for his dropsies, I am thinking (hoping) he had a bit of a sophomore slump with the dropsies. Gonzalez had a shitlaod his second year too, iirc.

Based on 40 time alone Bowe is faster than guys like Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, and Terrell Owens and had an almost identical time to Brandon Marshall. I really don't think his speed would keep him from being a true #1 WR.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5664565)
Ah...

Hakeem Nicks.

Not a particularly fast WR, but does a lot of things well.
Good hands, runs routes well, good after the catch.

Michael Irvin-esque.

I'll take him. I think I'd rather have a guy like DHB who can be a vertical threat, but I wouldn't complain at all if they took Nicks.

I actually think Nicks is a bit better than he's given credit for. Being a vertical threat is more than just being super fast and he very much understands how to get open on those routes.

I see alot of Reggie Wayne and a little Anquan Boldin in him.

Blick 04-12-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5664563)
You are right...

at 6'8 and 271 pounds the guy is a daisy!

Just look at his arms!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...Cvdcv/610x.jpg

A stiff breeze would snap those bad boys like they are twigs!

:rolleyes:

A TE that tall is going to take a lot of hits around his knees.

Also, a guy that big should have developed himself into a blocker. He didn't and that tells me that he's not physical.

Micjones 04-12-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664570)
I actually think Nicks is a bit better than he's given credit for. Being a vertical threat is more than just being super fast and he very much understands how to get open on those routes.

I see alot of Reggie Wayne and a little Anquan Boldin in him.

He has all the intangibles. I can live with 4.5 40 speed.

Mecca 04-12-2009 11:46 PM

Strengths:
Ideal height and bulk with long arms...Excellent route runner...Has big, strong, reliable hands...Plucks the ball out of the air and can make the difficult catch...Great body control and ball skills...Aggressive and is a decent leaper...Good balance and agility...Tough, strong and physical...Will work the middle of the field...Able to do some damage after the catch...Nice instincts and awareness...Team player with solid intangibles...Extremely competitive...Experienced...Very productive.

Weaknesses:
Just average speed and quickness...Is not very explosive and lacks a burst...Doesn't get a lot of separation...Probably won't be much of a vertical threat...Not very elusive and lacks wiggle...Motor runs hot and cold...Must work harder as a blocker...Might be a little too cocky.

Notes:
Was a three-year starter in the ACC...Never lost a single game in high school...Named 1st Team All-ACC in 2007 and 2008...Holds 14 Tar Heel records including career receptions, career receiving yards and career touchdowns...Wrapped up his college career with an amazing performance in the Meineke Car Care Bowl where he caught 8 balls for 217 yards and 3 touchdowns...Missed one game with an ankle sprain in 2006 but otherwise was pretty healthy...The best of the three Tar Heel wideouts that will be drafted this year...Is not the most physically gifted prospect in the world but he makes up for it by doing all of the little things...Profiles as a prototypical possession receiver in the NFL.

When I read these I always wonder, especially at the WR position what's wrong with being cocky?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-12-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664570)
I actually think Nicks is a bit better than he's given credit for. Being a vertical threat is more than just being super fast and he very much understands how to get open on those routes.

I see alot of Reggie Wayne and a little Anquan Boldin in him.

ROFL ****in Corner get's TORCHED at 2:50! Kid does have "glue hands".

Haley rode Fitz's ass on timing and routes, I see a lot of that problem with Bowe. Of course, having someone throw to you that isn't Tyler Thigpen will probably help a lot too.

Pablo 04-12-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5664587)

Haley rode Fitz's ass on timing and routes, I see a lot of that problem with Bowe. Of course, having someone throw to you that isn't Tyler Thigpen will probably help a lot too.

Bowe's got to work with gems like Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard..what a lucky guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-12-2009 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664590)
Bowe's got to work with gems like Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard..what a lucky guy.

I've seen Bowe bring down some pretty sweet "glue catches". If he can stand the coming heat, I think he'll be a great receiver in this league.

DaneMcCloud 04-12-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5664590)
Bowe's got to work with gems like Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard..what a lucky guy.

While that's true, he's had more than his fair share of dropped balls that were clearly catchable.

macdawg 04-13-2009 12:32 AM

I've always thought Bowe had really good hands, or am I mistaken??? I know at the very least he has made some amazing TD catches that not many guys could make.

T-post Tom 04-13-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664557)
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Wow, I think he redefined "circus catch" on one of those. This guy looks like a future NFL star.

Saccopoo 04-13-2009 12:41 AM

A second round pick...for a guy that can't do any more for this franchise than he already has? A guy that has, at most, three more years at a position that is usually considered a pass catching offensive tackle safety valve at best? A guy that can be re-signed for league minimum to come back to the organization to get his number retired whenever he chooses to do so?

That sounds effing reeruned. We should hold out for their first round pick!

LaChapelle 04-13-2009 08:41 AM

UPDATE
 
Report: Falcons Still Want Gonzalez

Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2009, 10:10 a.m. EDT

Though it remains to be seen whether tight end Tony Gonzalez wants out of Kansas City, one team that tried to get him in 2008 reportedly still wants him.

Michael Lombardi of NFP reports that the Falcons are “seriously interested” in trading for the veteran Pro Bowler, and might be willing to give up their second-round pick in the draft (55th overall) to make it happen.

We see several issues with this one:

1. Do the Chiefs want to trade Gonzalez at all? For now, the answer isn’t clear.

2. Does Gonzalez want out? Again, unclear.

3. If Gonzalez wants out, would he be willing to play for the Falcons? One thing we know is that Gonzalez wanted no part of the Falcons during the 2008 season, when the Falcons made a play for acquiring his services. So has Gonzalez’s position changed?

4. With two former New England colleagues calling the shots in Kansas City and Atlanta, would this be an impediment to getting a deal done, or would it help? Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli was able to strike a deal with Pats coach Bill Belichick for quarterback Matt Cassel, but the second-round pick the Chiefs gave up for Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel prompted suspicion that Belichick handed Pioli a sweetheart deal. So would Pioli and/or former Pats director of college scouting Thomas Dimitroff be leery of the aftermath of a trade for Gonzalez, and would they feel the need to drive a harder bargain in order to avoid being criticized?

We’re not saying the trade can’t happen. But several hurdles would have to be overcome in order to make it so.

Micjones 04-13-2009 08:44 AM

Hopefully this all blows over.
End your career in KC Tony...

Brock 04-13-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 5664860)
Report: Falcons Still Want Gonzalez

Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2009, 10:10 a.m. EDT

but the second-round pick the Chiefs gave up for Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel prompted suspicion that Belichick handed Pioli a sweetheart deal.

From who?

DTLB58 04-13-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5664585)
Strengths:
Ideal height and bulk with long arms...Excellent route runner...Has big, strong, reliable hands...Plucks the ball out of the air and can make the difficult catch...Great body control and ball skills...Aggressive and is a decent leaper...Good balance and agility...Tough, strong and physical...Will work the middle of the field...Able to do some damage after the catch...Nice instincts and awareness...Team player with solid intangibles...Extremely competitive...Experienced...Very productive.

Weaknesses:
Just average speed and quickness...Is not very explosive and lacks a burst...Doesn't get a lot of separation...Probably won't be much of a vertical threat...Not very elusive and lacks wiggle...Motor runs hot and cold...Must work harder as a blocker...Might be a little too cocky.

Notes:
Was a three-year starter in the ACC...Never lost a single game in high school...Named 1st Team All-ACC in 2007 and 2008...Holds 14 Tar Heel records including career receptions, career receiving yards and career touchdowns...Wrapped up his college career with an amazing performance in the Meineke Car Care Bowl where he caught 8 balls for 217 yards and 3 touchdowns...Missed one game with an ankle sprain in 2006 but otherwise was pretty healthy...The best of the three Tar Heel wideouts that will be drafted this year...Is not the most physically gifted prospect in the world but he makes up for it by doing all of the little things...Profiles as a prototypical possession receiver in the NFL.

When I read these I always wonder, especially at the WR position what's wrong with being cocky?

Especially when with this position it seems to be the majority.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdawg (Post 5664634)
I've always thought Bowe had really good hands, or am I mistaken??? I know at the very least he has made some amazing TD catches that not many guys could make.

He makes the jaw-dropping catch 100% of the time.

And then he drops a softball that hits him in the numbers.

He's a walking paradox.

HemiEd 04-13-2009 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5664297)
Help win what?

Another 10 games over his last 2 years?

School the young guns how?

By showing them that they can bitch and moan through the media if they perform on the field?

Yep, see ya Tony. Bye.

chop 04-13-2009 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdawg (Post 5664634)
I've always thought Bowe had really good hands, or am I mistaken??? I know at the very least he has made some amazing TD catches that not many guys could make.

Didn't he drop a potential game winning td pass in the first game against the Pats. I didn't see it, but isn't he the one that bobbled an onside kick in the Charger game last year that lead to San Diego winning the game? Granted he wasn't the only receiver to drop a ball that would sealed the win for KC in that game. That is two games where, if he would have caught the ball, the Chiefs would have won the game. He's a good receiver but he does have the case of the dropsies from time to time.

Mile High Mania 04-13-2009 10:18 AM

If KC traded Gonzo... that would really suck for Cassel.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 5665083)
He's a good receiver but he does have the case of the dropsies from time to time.

Time to time?

He was second in the league for dropped passes with 13. Braylon Edwards had 16.

That's awful.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

Micjones 04-13-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665097)
Time to time?

He was second in the league for dropped passes with 13. Braylon Edwards had 16.

That's awful.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

He still had a hell of a season on a God awful offense.
He can only improve and I believe he'll do just that.

Don't lose his talent in the drops. This kid is special.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665097)
Time to time?

He was second in the league for dropped passes with 13. Braylon Edwards had 16.

That's awful.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

And yet he's still the best WR we've had since the early 90's. He needs to work on his drops but he's a special player, no doubt about it.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665201)
And yet he's still the best WR we've had since the early 90's. He needs to work on his drops but he's a special player, no doubt about it.

I understand that.

I also believe that he could be better.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665264)
I understand that.

I also believe that he could be better.

Absolutely a me too on that one.

LaChapelle 04-13-2009 11:43 AM

If Bowe would have made two catches. Herm and possibly Carl could still be employed at one Arrowhead Dr.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 5665322)
If Bowe would have made two catches. Herm and possibly Carl could still be employed at one Arrowhead Dr.

Probably better for him to wait until NOW to cure his dropsies. :D

Rooster 04-13-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665337)
Probably better for him to wait until NOW to cure his dropsies. :D

LOL.. So very true. :D

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-13-2009 12:14 PM

Players have Zero loyalty to teams nowadays. I'm not sure I understand a fans' need for having loyalty towards a player, in today's age.

hawkchief 04-13-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665097)
Time to time?

He was second in the league for dropped passes with 13. Braylon Edwards had 16.

That's awful.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

That doesn't include drops of on-sides kicks, either. Good player, could be great if he learns to hold on to the ball.

DTLB58 04-13-2009 01:45 PM

Jim , Athens, GA 02:54 PM ET
Do you think there is a possibility that the Falcons try to trade for a pass catching tight end like Tony Gonzalez instead of picking Brandon Pettigrew? The Falcons need to pick defense with their first pick don't you agree? Vic

Carucci, Senior Writer, NFL.com

I think it's possible. My sense is that Gonzalez does not feel all that comfortable with the new regime in KC. And when you think about the offense from which new Chiefs GM Scott Pioli came in New England, the tight end simply didn't have that big of a pass-catching role. Gonzalez certainly knows that and wants to be on a team where is going to at least be among the top pass-catchers.


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